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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by porschespeeddemon
Do you have part numbers for above repair? There is no coolant inside the intake manifold, or any "steel-braided" coolant lines.

Curious as to when Porsche decides this is a design error and decides a recall; seems alot of people with v-8s are having to do this?? are recalls more on a safety issue rather than mechanical failure??

I believe he is refering to under the intake manifold?
 
Old Nov 17, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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I don't believe this is an official recall. (at least that's what I was informed from my local P-dealer.) If you guys know the ref# of this recall, please let me know.


Just out of curiosity, mine was built in Oct of 06, do you think mine has the plastic or aluminum ones? Is it possible to visually check?
 

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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 08:56 AM
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Another thing to check out (as I found out recently) is there are two plastic coolant lines inside the intake manifold. These can also crack. Ask me how I know! 100% of my coolant basically went into the manifold and straight out my exhaust while crusing at 70mph on the hwy. Poor sucka behind me didn't know what happened when all of a sudden his windshield was drenched in coolant and water.

I was out of warranty and it cost $2k to fix and upgrade the pieces to the new steel-braided versions. I'm still pissed and think it should have been a recall fix but I guess not quite enough have failed to recall...though enough so that they upgraded the part!
I was going 15mph coming up to a stop light and my entire coolant just dropped. Just got off the phone w/ porsche and obviously they don't stand by their product. They completely upgrade the coolant system from a three-pipe plastic to a 2 pipe metal (have to use a saw to cut out the old plastic pipes) and they will not admit that they had faulty engineering. From a brand like Porsche this is unacceptable and with the service I just received from them on this matter will question my next purchase
 
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Originally Posted by JSCyneS2
I was going 15mph coming up to a stop light and my entire coolant just dropped. Just got off the phone w/ porsche and obviously they don't stand by their product. They completely upgrade the coolant system from a three-pipe plastic to a 2 pipe metal (have to use a saw to cut out the old plastic pipes) and they will not admit that they had faulty engineering. From a brand like Porsche this is unacceptable and with the service I just received from them on this matter will question my next purchase
I, obviously, understand your frustration. But you shouldn't look at the price tag of Porsches and confuse that with relative quality. Since I bought my '07 911TT (used) I have had several things happen. All small things. The coat hook literally fell off when I put a coat on it. One of the homelink buttons fell out when I pushed it. The temp control and fan control buttons started peeling. And worst of all, my right foot keeps getting these sudden urges to push down on the gas pedal really, really hard. Would I buy these cars again knowing these issue? In a heartbeat.
 
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Originally Posted by JSCyneS2
I was going 15mph coming up to a stop light and my entire coolant just dropped. Just got off the phone w/ porsche and obviously they don't stand by their product. They completely upgrade the coolant system from a three-pipe plastic to a 2 pipe metal (have to use a saw to cut out the old plastic pipes) and they will not admit that they had faulty engineering. From a brand like Porsche this is unacceptable and with the service I just received from them on this matter will question my next purchase
sounds to me like you didnt do any research before purchasing a used vehicle.............they always say to carry 5k in savings for buying a used cayenne to anticipate repairs.

Get ready for spark plugs, coils, cardan shaft too bub.

Sorry you found out the hardway.......check out rennlist too.
 
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Originally Posted by futheman
Should I look for an 05 or would it be safe to buy an 04 with plastic pipe?
Originally Posted by pcst
Just out of curiosity, mine was built in Oct of 06, do you think mine has the plastic or aluminum ones? Is it possible to visually check?
As stated in the quote below. They ALL have the same issue.

Originally Posted by rockstardoc
So it really doesn't matter if you get an 04 or an 06 for that specific reason. It can still have the same coolant problem.
Originally Posted by Dual Cams
You'll see most of them on 2003 and 2004 Cayenne S and Cayenne Turbos and some early production 2005 Cayenne S and Cayenne Turbos. Very little on the 2006 Cayenne S and Cayenne Turbos.
They ALL have the same coolant pipes. I think the only reason you see it more on 03-04 is because they sold more 03-04 then they did 05-06 and the early ones probably have more miles on them on average.
 
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Call Sunset Porsche they have the package of all the parts you need and a couple of additional parts that should get replaced while doing the job. I just ordered all of them getting ready to do mine in the next week.
How much was that?
 
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It was so long ago, I think it was around $450, call they know exactly what you need 800-346-0182
 
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Be forewarned, if you wait till the pipes burst and coolant covers the motor and transmission you can have more expensive repairs later. When mine went it took with it the transmission seals 48 hours later and I was told by the dealer that since the starter is right under the pipes it usually will fail shortly after as well.
 
Old Nov 16, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Reborn996
the starter is right under the pipes it usually will fail shortly after as well.
Yep! my starter failed due to the leak, took few months, thought I had a weak battery?
 
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Originally Posted by Reborn996
Be forewarned, if you wait till the pipes burst and coolant covers the motor and transmission you can have more expensive repairs later. When mine went it took with it the transmission seals 48 hours later and I was told by the dealer that since the starter is right under the pipes it usually will fail shortly after as well.

Yikes! Mine burst about 18 months ago and I haven't had any issues with the tranny or starter yet.
 
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Originally Posted by Reborn996
Be forewarned, if you wait till the pipes burst and coolant covers the motor and transmission you can have more expensive repairs later. When mine went it took with it the transmission seals 48 hours later and I was told by the dealer that since the starter is right under the pipes it usually will fail shortly after as well.
Exactly the reason why I had to do a preemptive measure. I recently got my aluminum coolant pipes which cost me over $500 including shipping. I recently purchased 6 gallons of Porsche coolant which cost me over $200 including shipping. That is more than $700 for parts alone. I still have to figure out if this includes the two coolant pipes mentioned in a few posts above. My CTT is scheduled for this work on the last couple of weeks of 2010.
 
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Originally Posted by SeattleBum
Another thing to check out (as I found out recently) is there are two plastic coolant lines inside the intake manifold. These can also crack. Ask me how I know! 100% of my coolant basically went into the manifold and straight out my exhaust while crusing at 70mph on the hwy. Poor sucka behind me didn't know what happened when all of a sudden his windshield was drenched in coolant and water.

I was out of warranty and it cost $2k to fix and upgrade the pieces to the new steel-braided versions. I'm still pissed and think it should have been a recall fix but I guess not quite enough have failed to recall...though enough so that they upgraded the part!
SeattleBum,
Can you advise us of the part numbers for the manifold coolant lines that failed inside your intake manifold.

The part numbers of the replacement new steel braided lines you had fitted would be good to know of as well.

Thanks.
 
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Based on some posts above is this ussually/always a dump of coolant or can it start out slow? I noticed on my 47k mile 06S that there have been small trailing puddles under my car the last 3 days inside of the left front passenger tire (about 1 1/2 feet from the tire). Doesn't taste or look like coolant (it's clear and relatively odor free) but it hasn't been there before. Any thoughts? I drive quite a bit and don't want my family and I stranded on the side of the road during the holidays.
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^What is the average labor cost on this.

Can you ever get a Porsche dealer to do this Pro Bono, seems to be a pretty widespread issue. Should be a recall............I have seen this kinda crap on most
Manufacturers.
 


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