Found a solution to having no spare tire!!
Thanks!
Yes, 2.7T from my 2000 Audi S4. We had it out for a tech session and made the "Poster Shots" for 3Zero3 Motorsports here in Wheatridge, Co.


....and the random "in the car, in front of my house" shots


Dual battery with a Bose sub. No room for a spare.
They come with fix-a-flat and an air pump.
Last edited by Cole; Sep 29, 2010 at 03:36 PM.
and some people don't call that tiny thing a "spare". I don't anyway.
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I was considering an Allroad but the Touareg or Cayenne compliment what we have better I think. That photo showing the motorcycle must be approaching the tongue weight rating though.
Which model Cayenne do you have? I thought all of them did come with the silly deflated skinny spare.
I was considering an Allroad but the Touareg or Cayenne compliment what we have better I think. That photo showing the motorcycle must be approaching the tongue weight rating though.
I was considering an Allroad but the Touareg or Cayenne compliment what we have better I think. That photo showing the motorcycle must be approaching the tongue weight rating though.
I have an 04 Turbo. The dual battery option puts the second battery in the spare tire compartment. Then it puts a larger Bose Sub over it. If you don't have the dual battery you get a smaller Bose sub that the inflatable spare fits over.
Tounge weight is 617 lbs if I remember correctly. A KLR650 is 337lbs dry. The hitch carrier is aluminum and I would bet is 60-70lbs total or less.
So you are talking a total weight less than 450lbs on a 617lb tonge capacity.
that's pretty good tongue weight rating.
In case anyone else wonders this too, what purpose does that "dual battery" serve? I have an LR3 set up for extensive off road trips with a 2nd battery which itself is 2x larger than most suvs standard battery. It's used for running a freezer, lights, air tank/compressor, and in general keeping you able to start up after a week of that stuff.
Relative to this thread, have many people brought in the Porsche full size tire carrier?
In case anyone else wonders this too, what purpose does that "dual battery" serve? I have an LR3 set up for extensive off road trips with a 2nd battery which itself is 2x larger than most suvs standard battery. It's used for running a freezer, lights, air tank/compressor, and in general keeping you able to start up after a week of that stuff.
Relative to this thread, have many people brought in the Porsche full size tire carrier?
I'm a long time wheeler. Even spent 10 years writing for an online magazine building rigs, etc. All part of the reason I like the Cayenne.
The Cayenne is set up like most wheelers would run a dual battery set up with an isolator. One batter runs all the accessories and the other is only for starting the car.
I'm seriously considering adding a multi-mount winch and some lights that I already have laying here from past projects.
As for the no spare issue. Here is a quick camera phone pic of the spare tire well for you. Might help. Fwiw the Cayenne also has OBA to fill the tires which is a nice built in.
The Cayenne is set up like most wheelers would run a dual battery set up with an isolator. One batter runs all the accessories and the other is only for starting the car.
I'm seriously considering adding a multi-mount winch and some lights that I already have laying here from past projects.
As for the no spare issue. Here is a quick camera phone pic of the spare tire well for you. Might help. Fwiw the Cayenne also has OBA to fill the tires which is a nice built in.
so are you saying there was an "option" in 2004 turbos to get a bigger SUB which then also brought the other battery along with it? It would make sense as those drain a lot if the vehicle isn't running.
Do you have any idea what the option code is or what it was called so I can see in my search? Of course a photo of the tire area from anyone selling would make it obvious what's built in there.
Do you have any idea what the option code is or what it was called so I can see in my search? Of course a photo of the tire area from anyone selling would make it obvious what's built in there.
Can you point me to any more informational threads or sites on real off road experience in these?
I was aware of the on board air as it was also in the Touareg we had. It's a tiny tank but still a nice feature.
In your "opinion" if you were having to decide between what's out there on the used market, which way would you go? :
2008-09 (any model) with PDCC, mainly for it's ability to disconnect the sway bars offroad but also being better on road.
OR
04-06 Turbo with "off road tech package" allowing rear diff lock + sway bar disconnect on demand in low range via button beside gearing slider.
Other variations in the above:
1- 06 Turbo S with the off road tech option (would simply need to swap front brakes with a Turbo owner to allow 18" wheels)
2- 08-09 GTS with PDCC, maybe even a 6 spd....(would pretty much have to forget about finding a GTS with offroad tech)
3- Transsyberia without either PDCC or off road tech package (not sure if Trans had the option for either off road tech or PDCC) (I realize the Transsyberia is essentially an S with the GTS engine)
(Being that new 2011 don't have low range anymore and cost too much anyway.)
I was aware of the on board air as it was also in the Touareg we had. It's a tiny tank but still a nice feature.
In your "opinion" if you were having to decide between what's out there on the used market, which way would you go? :
2008-09 (any model) with PDCC, mainly for it's ability to disconnect the sway bars offroad but also being better on road.
OR
04-06 Turbo with "off road tech package" allowing rear diff lock + sway bar disconnect on demand in low range via button beside gearing slider.
Other variations in the above:
1- 06 Turbo S with the off road tech option (would simply need to swap front brakes with a Turbo owner to allow 18" wheels)
2- 08-09 GTS with PDCC, maybe even a 6 spd....(would pretty much have to forget about finding a GTS with offroad tech)
3- Transsyberia without either PDCC or off road tech package (not sure if Trans had the option for either off road tech or PDCC) (I realize the Transsyberia is essentially an S with the GTS engine)
(Being that new 2011 don't have low range anymore and cost too much anyway.)
I don't think the sub itself is any different. The enclosure is bigger to accomodate the bigger battery. The second battery is the option, not the different sub.

As for which one I would choose. That is a tough question.
It is REALLY hard to find older Cayennes with the Off Road Tech package. I just don't think that many were ordered.
I figured I would do some light wheeling with mine so I went with the "most bang for the buck" option that would not leave me feeing too bad when I scratched it.
Near as I can figure it would be cheaper to buy a Turbo and add some performance upgrades than to buy a Turbo S. There simply is not that much that is actually different between them (intercoolers, software, tie rods, control arm bushing, lowering module program, front brakes)
A non-turbo *might* be more reliable in the dust and dirt. But way less fun on the paved surfaces.
....oh and a pic from my most recent build and "suspension testing" day. WE had just installed an AEV suspension and were getting ready to write a review.

To bad Porsche can't make one flex like this and handle like a Porsche.

To bad Porsche can't make one flex like this and handle like a Porsche.




