Getting started with my upcoming order and cant decide if the ceramic brakes are overkill for a SUV. Yes, its an extremely capable SUV, but will you ever see the advantage of the ceramics? I've not yet driven a Cayenne with ceramics yet so trying to justify the $8K price bump. This car will be a regular daily driver and utility car for skis, bikes, dog...

 

NO ceramics...They wear much faster and are a lot more trouble. No need for a daily driver.

 

2x^^ no need at all, especially when you have to replace them that's a pretty penny!

 

Does anyone have actual wear experience? If I decide to order one I was thinking PCCB's are a must have. The brake dust generated on my 08 GTS is retarded!

 

i had them on my 996tt x50. cant rember actuly miles to change. But they were a hassel if you got them dirty, you can crew through rotors as well .

 

Those were probably Gen 1.
I have Gen 2 PCCB on my 997 and love them. Wish I had them on my CTS. The brake dust with out them is outrageous!

I certainly would spend the $8K for the brake dust issue alone.

 

I had a 2006 Turbo X50 package. Which as the bigger rotors.

Then a 2008 Turbo.

Both of them the brakes where not enough. Car is way to heavy and to much power and fade happens to fast.

So my 2009 Turbo S i got the PCCB. Let me tell you it is worth every last penny i spent.

I have a 2008 Ferrari 599 with ceramic and the stopping power is sick on that car.

Not saying the cayenne is equal but night and day diff then the steel brakes.

Plus having over 16in rotors and yellow calipers on a cayenne is bad ***. Even more so when you have 23in wheels like I do.

I hit the brakes and that baby stops fast.

Now if you drive like grandma then no need to spend the money.

Not sure why peopel are saying cost on replacment. PCCB will last you forver. Trust me unless you track it alot you will never change the pads or the rotors.

On top of that I think you save 45lbs per wheel. Then you add rotating mass to that and it is even greater.

Sorry for misspells typing fast.

 

I was wondering about the replacement concerns posted above - I was under the impression ceramics would last nearly forever. New '11 Cayenne is quite a bit lighter and has a totally different drive feel than the previous gen.
Just drove a '11 Cayenne S with standard brakes and it felt pretty good - now I really didnt push it extremes as it wasnt my car.
Still undecided...although the no brake dust option may be enough in itself!

 

No brake dust was nice.... Our '08 ctt rims are always covered in dust!

 

I have 1300 miles on my '11 Turbo, and find the standard (red caliper) brakes more than adequate. While I'm still breaking the vehicle in, I have had it on spirited drives in the local mountains, with no lack of braking power...or dust.

 

If you aren't considering cost, I would probably opt for them as well.
One thing to consider, is that until the ceramics heat up, they might be a bit noisy around town on cooler mornings.
This was the main issue for me... I don't wnat to pull up next to somone in my 2011 Turbo and come squeeling to a stop

Can anyone chime in to if this is accurate?
On my GTS, I have the standard breaks which i found to be quite good, but as with the upgrade from GTS to TURBO, I am also upgrading from standard to Ceramic.

PLUS the break dust on the standard is rediculous!!!! Absolutely!!!
I knwo you can get the Hawks or such which have less, but the OEM's are terrible for break dust...

If ceramics are better, this alone might be enough to sway....

 

I have a '07 911TT & Galardo both with ceramics and they are perfectly quiet! NO brake dust issues with either car.
I just had all pads and rotors replaced on my GTS. It had 28K miles and cost $2800. If I do this twice during my ownership, thats's almost 2/3 of the cost of ceramics.
To me ceramics are a no brainer!

 

Replaced my front pads at 33,900 miles, the rears have a bit more life remaining. All rotors look new. This is on a 2009 Carrera S with many track events. My previous Carrera S had the std brakes and if your primary concern is brake dust...with PCCBs...that problem is solved. On the other hand, 8K buys a lot of detailing.

Don't run your pads beyond the 50% wear point and if you're not tracking or off-roading your Cayanne, the rotors may never need replacement.

 

i have PCCB on all my porsches.... can't live without them here!

 

I just dont agree. You dont need or want ceramic brakes on a daily driver. If its gonna get tracked a lot, or weekend canyon blasting then yes. Otherwise proper pad selection goes a long way, porsche or not. No brake dust and stopping power are not really synonomous. Just as it takes fuel to produce energy, it takes friction to create drag.

The biggest safety concern with ceramics is they are operate at higher temps better, thats why they stop harder, wear longer. Because they can handle the heat. With that being said, if your cruising down the highway and its raining, and you haven't used the brakes for 10 miles, they are wet and cold and you have to pull an emergency stop, they may not be there momentarily. How momentarily you say? There are simply too many factors for ANYONE to say.

Ceramic brakes truly are extreme performance, and want to be used, abused and treated that way.

I would consider taking that money and doing an aftermarket brake upgrade.
Check out, Willwood, Baer, SSBC, and there are a few more that are great.
Its your loved ones and your brakes your talking about here