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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 09:15 AM
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Question 100w HID Kits

I was wondering if anyone has used a 100w HID kit yet. From what i've read, being that HIDs are much more efficient that halogen bulbs, the temperature increase vs a 55w halogen bulb is almost insignificant. My bigger issue is the error eliminator. How do those work? Do I need one for my 08 Cayenne? and are they specific to the kit? (ie will this 100w kit need a specialized error eliminator).

Here's a thread with more information: http://ls1tech.com/forums/appearance...ts-no-56k.html

here's the product i'm looking at specifically: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100W-12V-HID-...item2c611aff01

 
Old Jan 24, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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100w is way too bright. That's about 2-3x the power of normal hid low beam. You will get pulled over for blinding incoming traffic.

That kit looks like a cheap Chinese made part. I would go high end like hoen, Phillips or morimoto.

Ballast and bulb go bad easily so don't skimp on these.
 
Old Jan 24, 2012 | 10:39 AM
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Just saw that these are 6000k, which is too blue. Color higher than 4300k will rreduce the brightness. Go with either stock 4300k or 5000k.
 
Old Jan 24, 2012 | 10:43 AM
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^ as long as the cut-off is good, i don't see why it would blind oncoming traffic? The reason i'm interested in 100w is because they're 2-3x the power of a normal hid low beam. Its kind of like how you only need an i4 engine to commute, but you'd rather do it in a V10.

I tend to see a lot o threads on 6speedonline that encourage everyone to buy only the most expensive brands regardless of any sort of empiricial evidence that one is better than the other. I've owned hoen bulbs, and the only thing that failed faster than them were the sylvania's i had.

That said, none of these brands even make 100w HID kits, so they arent really an option. And being that these are inexpensive, even if the balast or bulb go, I can easy buy a new one (or just get it replaced under warranty).

My intention would certainly be to buy 4300k. I'm going for output here, not color.
 
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I didn't even know anybody made 100W bulbs for automotive applications.

Just curious - why the need for so much light? Are you offroading or doing something else with your vehicle that requires more light?
 
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i have a hard time seeing well in the dark. not enough that its dangerous for me to be driving at night or anything, but if i can get more light output on the road, why not?

so my biggest outstanding question at this point is) does the 2008 cayenne require an error eliminator to prevent getting any check-headlight warning lights?
 
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Do you already have factory HID lights? If not, then I would imagine you'll need an error corrector. If you do have factory HIDs, then it might be a simple bulb or bulb/ballast switch.
 
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^ no factory HIDs. Now i need to figure out if i can get an error corrector for these types of HID kits. Worst case i'll end up with 55w, but it would be nice to try something more powerful this time around.
 
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can't help you on the error corrector. a stereo shop should be able to tell you.

on the cut off topic, how would a 100w have the same range and cut off as a stock 35w bulb. 100w will be brighter than a high beam. you'll be pull over or cause an accident if you drive on the road.

good luck..
 
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And the conversion HID kits are notoriously bad about locating the light source, which is a different shape then a filament bulb.. plus they have no anti-glare coating on the end of the capsule.

You WILL BLIND ONCOMING traffic with this setup - and doing that tends to draw them to the light.. It's a very very bad idea.

i have a hard time seeing well in the dark. not enough that its dangerous for me to be driving at night or anything, but if i can get more light output on the road, why not?
I'd suggest several things:

1. See an opthamologist (not an eyeglass presciber - but an MD trained in eyes and eye surgery.) If you "have trouble" seeing at night, chances are something is wrong (cataracts come to mind.. BTDT)

2. Stop driving at night until your eyes are fixed, and if they can't be fixed, stop driving at night forever. Trying to make up for blindness by blinding the rest of the world is not a good idea.

3. Stop browsing Ebay.

Go see the opthamologist ASAP - you have "free" medical in Canada right? Bet'cha they can figure out why you can't see in the dark.
 
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also you may want to consider the extra amount of heat produced by this kit, the extra heat may damage the internal plastic leading to replacement of complete headlights
 
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And the conversion HID kits are notoriously bad about locating the light source, which is a different shape then a filament bulb.. plus they have no anti-glare coating on the end of the capsule.

You WILL BLIND ONCOMING traffic with this setup - and doing that tends to draw them to the light.. It's a very very bad idea.



I'd suggest several things:

1. See an opthamologist (not an eyeglass presciber - but an MD trained in eyes and eye surgery.) If you "have trouble" seeing at night, chances are something is wrong (cataracts come to mind.. BTDT)

2. Stop driving at night until your eyes are fixed, and if they can't be fixed, stop driving at night forever. Trying to make up for blindness by blinding the rest of the world is not a good idea.

3. Stop browsing Ebay.

Go see the opthamologist ASAP - you have "free" medical in Canada right? Bet'cha they can figure out why you can't see in the dark.
a bit off topic, but some good advice none the less.

1) i think cataracts only cause issue when its light out. my father in law had his cataracts removed recently and prior to that he could still see better than me at night (although signficantly worse during the day)

2) I wouldn't say night time driving is dangerous for me by any means.. i just have to be more careful than my wife for example.

3) way too addicted ebay

you're right about free medical in Canada. I should really take advantage of that. i'm paying heavy taxes and not getting my money's worth!
 
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also you may want to consider the extra amount of heat produced by this kit, the extra heat may damage the internal plastic leading to replacement of complete headlights
^ that's kind of one of the main things I was trying to figure out. from what i've read, because HIDs are more efficient -- significantly more energy is released in the form of light, and not as much in heat. Looks like no one has tried it yet, and I dont want to be the first to do so, so i'll probably just get 55w HIDs -- those can easily be sourced with error cancellors.

my only remaining question now, is do the error cancellors actually work? i've been reading a lot of conflicting answers on here saying that a warning light appears when you turn them off or have them in auto mode?
 
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Originally Posted by split
a bit off topic, but some good advice none the less.

1) i think cataracts only cause issue when its light out. my father in law had his cataracts removed recently and prior to that he could still see better than me at night (although signficantly worse during the day)
As I said - BTDT. The first clue to one of my cataracts was diminished low light sensitivity in the worst eye.

Think of pulling a piece of yellowish waxed paper over your eye - that's about the effect of a cataract. Blurry and darker.

I had gone to eyeglass prescribers - optometrists - for decades.. and while they'd make some mumbling comments about "minor cataracts" - they never suggested doing anything about them. One eye eventually became so far out of focus that it wasn't correctable, meaning I was basically legally blind in that eye.

Went and found the very best opthalmologist I could - young lady who had graduated from the best school with honors about 3 years before. Had the most up to date training and enough real life experience to know what she was doing.

A few tests later she said "When do you want to do them?" and then commented that I wouldn't need glasses when she was done. That would be the first time in over 5 decades that I wouldn't need glasses..

I went for an optional focusing lens implant in both eyes. Costly, but worth it. When the eyes were finished, I ended up with 20/15 vision in both eyes in daylight, and about 20/25 vision at night. I do need glasses - very weak reading glasses for stuff 18" and closer. Aside from that - no glasses needed except non-prescription sunglasses.

Makes a big difference in night vision, and in overall driving and riding (2 wheeled sort of BMWs) abilities. I can actually see now.

Find out what your national health plan offers - my WAG - it won't cost you a cent to have your vision fixed. And that will avoid things like silly bright HIDs being needed.
 
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i highly doubt its cataracts.. i'm only 26. however there's a possibility it could be something else.

regardless, and back on topic, is there a 55w kit which will not give me an error of any kind?
 


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