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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 12:01 PM
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Engine torsion arm - torque damper - need to replace?

Can snyone chime in on the need to replace worn or torn engine torque damper?
What if it's left in with worn bushing? what aspect of the car foes it affect and how? Really appreciate your insights.
 
Old Apr 5, 2015 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ciaka
Can snyone chime in on the need to replace worn or torn engine torque damper?
What if it's left in with worn bushing? what aspect of the car foes it affect and how? Really appreciate your insights.
Why not just replace it. Not very expensive and pretty easy to do. The only odd part is the triple square socket needed for the engine side mount.

Someone noticed mine was ripped. I ordered just the bushings trying to save a few bucks but without a press found it hard to do. The bushings are aluminum and easy to distort without something the exact size to press them in.

I put it back together and am going to order the whole thing like I should have the first time.
 
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I was wondering about the atul need to do this. I know relatively cheap. Why bother doing this was the inquiry. If bushing torn or worn, the bar still affixed to frame and engine with little spare room.
 
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I was wondering about the atul need to do this. I know relatively cheap. Why bother doing this was the inquiry. If bushing torn or worn, the bar still affixed to frame and engine with little spare room.
Yep, the bar is still attached at either end. I don't suppose it's gonna hurt much to leave it for awhile. I doubt the rubber will disintegrate to the point of damaging something. It just won't be quite as firm as it should be.
 
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Thanks. Looks like this will go on my secondary 'if I get a chance to...' List.
 
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This is a pretty straightforward swap. I ordered a whole new arm for not much more than just the bushings. Was probably done installing it in under a half hour.
 
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The TT engine creates a lot of twisting torque under initial load. The torque damper bar serves two purposes. First, it takes some stress off the right engine mount, making the mount last longer. Second, and probably most noticeable, is that it absorbs a LOT of engine vibration. After I replaced mine, there was a totally different sensation in the passenger compartment of smoothness.


The bushing in mine was absolutely shot:









As was mentioned, the part is not prohibitively expensive, is a straightforward replacement job, and at least for me, seemed to really diminish vibration of the vehicle. Unless cost is a big issue, I'd vote that it's worth replacing whenever the bushing is shot.
 
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The TT engine creates a lot of twisting torque under initial load. The torque damper bar serves two purposes. First, it takes some stress off the right engine mount, making the mount last longer. Second, and probably most noticeable, is that it absorbs a LOT of engine vibration. After I replaced mine, there was a totally different sensation in the passenger compartment of smoothness.


The bushing in mine was absolutely shot:

As was mentioned, the part is not prohibitively expensive, is a straightforward replacement job, and at least for me, seemed to really diminish vibration of the vehicle. Unless cost is a big issue, I'd vote that it's worth replacing whenever the bushing is shot.
Yep mine looked about like that. I agree, once it was noticed on mine I just fixed it. Easy and cheap.
 
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My 05 CTT looked the same at 100,000 miles.
 
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