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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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From Panamera to Cayenne

My Panamera 4S lease is ending in couple of months and I am thinking about replacing it with a Cayenne S. I would appreciate if anyone who did the same let me know of their experience.

What do you think about my build?

 
Old Dec 2, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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Great choice..you will enjoy what I believe to be a roomier and more comfortable ride than the P
A must have is PDCC
I look forward to your pictures and impressions
 
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I have both Cayenne GTS and a Panemera 4 (wife's).
The Panemera gets a lot more looks and compliments from strangers.
The cayenne is better on a road trip with a few people since the panemera doesn't really hold luggage very well. Both are excellent choices for tall people, good leg room in the back for both.

I really like the air suspension.
Since you are doing the sportier steering wheel that doesn't have radio, phone, and settings buttons you could consider voice control. The steering wheel you chose is a lot more attractive at the expense of driver conveniences.
 
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True,the Panamera does get more looks..being low and sleek
Had a few as loaners,and one day took my mom for a ride in one..
..to which she concluded by :nice,but I feel much more comfy in the Cayenne
Mommy does know best...
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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Nice build. One suggestion is to add the panorama roof. With black/black having the extra glass really opens up a rather dark interior.
 
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Why not get a GTS, since your price with options is in that neighborhood?
 
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Originally Posted by OCNYPORSCHE
Why not get a GTS, since your price with options is in that neighborhood?
+1, Since you are ordering the sport exhaust, air suspension, 21"s, SD steering wheel, with a GTS youll get a better deal as whole package.
 

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Originally Posted by OCNYPORSCHE
Why not get a GTS, since your price with options is in that neighborhood?
You must remember he is dealing with "Canadian" prices which are at least 15%- 20% higher then "U.S" prices!! I priced a GTS when I was in Toronto and it came in at $122K....the same build was $102K at Suncoast Porsche in Florida
 
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PSE is a waste of money in my opinion. its really only noticeable on cold starts when the cars started after left being sit like overnight. once the engine warms up and the idles drops, its barely louder than without. save ur money and buy a real aftermarket exhaust made for the cayenne. i would add pano roof as well and also black roof rails and exterior trims in black. as others said pdcc is a must have i somewhat disagree. the suv already drives nice and very sport sedan like, if its ur only fun car and u like to drive very hard get it, otherwise i thinks its overrated. dont get me wrong its a very nice to have and handles well with or without it for what it is, but itll never drive and can be thrown around like a true sports car. i dont care what magazine times say, the cayenne will never feel or deliver the excitement a gt3 or m3 type of car will give you.
 
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That reminds me
Had an M3 for lunch today
Meh
 
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Originally Posted by pepper09tt
That reminds me
Had an M3 for lunch today
Meh

LOL... im not talking straight line / fwy speed. i ride sport bikes too so cars dont really feel all that fast even when they are. my friends fully built 3.8L 1000awhp 996 turbo, thats a whole different story tho. its scary $hit in ur pants fast, id even put my money on that car vs. any stock 1000cc sport bike.
 
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Originally Posted by MikeL
PSE is a waste of money in my opinion. its really only noticeable on cold starts when the cars started after left being sit like overnight. once the engine warms up and the idles drops, its barely louder than without. save ur money and buy a real aftermarket exhaust made for the cayenne. i would add pano roof as well and also black roof rails and exterior trims in black. as others said pdcc is a must have i somewhat disagree. the suv already drives nice and very sport sedan like, if its ur only fun car and u like to drive very hard get it, otherwise i thinks its overrated. dont get me wrong its a very nice to have and handles well with or without it for what it is, but itll never drive and can be thrown around like a true sports car. i dont care what magazine times say, the cayenne will never feel or deliver the excitement a gt3 or m3 type of car will give you.

I have PSE on mine and it definitely makes a difference. I wonder why you say its barely louder. I drive an R35 with a very loud system and definitely appreciate the sound but its nice to have an on/off button when I want a little rumble.

Btw I pepper, I can destroy M3's in my 35 and so the cayenne to me is a slow family car regardless of all the options I have. Heck I even brake better with the Brembo's compared to my PCCB
 

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Originally Posted by MikeL
LOL... im not talking straight line / fwy speed. i ride sport bikes too so cars dont really feel all that fast even when they are. my friends fully built 3.8L 1000awhp 996 turbo, thats a whole different story tho. its scary $hit in ur pants fast, id even put my money on that car vs. any stock 1000cc sport bike.
Funny thing,I remember a French country road and having a 600Bandit for breakfast
In all seriousness,driving in Europe was fun though I would have to agree that,especially after having owned a 997tts,the CT never did feel too fast
However,with the wittle mods I have since added...it has perked up nicely
PS:would love to see pics that 996
 
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Originally Posted by N/A
I have PSE on mine and it definitely makes a difference. I wonder why you say its barely louder. I drive an R35 with a very loud system and definitely appreciate the sound but its nice to have an on/off button when I want a little rumble.

Btw I pepper, I can destroy M3's in my 35 and so the cayenne to me is a slow family car regardless of all the options I have. Heck I even brake better with the Brembo's compared to my PCCB
it is barely louder, prob 10-15% louder. there is a nice little growl that can be heard from the outside while under acceleration with pse. but from the inside of the cabin while driving, windows up or down, you can barely hear nething. for the amount of $ they charge for that option, its just not worth it. an aftermarket exhaust, sounds way better and even gives u a few horses. if u look at the design of the pse muffler, its nearly identical to that of a regular 958 exhaut muffler. i know of 2 ways that can give you the exact pse sound without the button for the valve to open. so basically its on all the time. any v6 or v8 cayennes muffler, u can have a competent muffler shop make/modify the regular oem exhaust. on n/a cars without pse, they basically welded the second outlet shut and its a Y configuration. single outlet pipe to dual pipes. basically if u cut the welded bung open and weld on another pipe and tip, u have PSE sound without the button/valve to turn it on or off. but basically its the same thing, but always on. or you can 2, buy someones used ctt muffler for cheap and slap it on with reducer pipes and itll give u that subtle growl that pse does again always on, no valve to open and close. in the end its ur money, but basically ur paying for the button to open and close the valve and imho it doesnt sound all that great for the $$ spent. any aftermarket exhaust makes it rumble, with pse to a normal joe who just hears it drive by wont know the subtle difference in that 10-15% sound gain.
 
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Originally Posted by pepper09tt
Funny thing,I remember a French country road and having a 600Bandit for breakfast
In all seriousness,driving in Europe was fun though I would have to agree that,especially after having owned a 997tts,the CT never did feel too fast
However,with the wittle mods I have since added...it has perked up nicely
PS:would love to see pics that 996

pepper, next time he brings the car out, ill take pics of it and post em. for being an older 996, it looks pretty bad a$$, full techart gt street kit, hres, brembo gt 15", gt3 seats, cage etc. one of my favorite 996s forsure, even without all the engine stuff.
 


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