as some as you know, i'm looking to trade my 6speed in for an auto. I found an available '13 with decent options. Its missing Bose which i'm not happy with. How much better is the bose then the cdr audio? See the options below. What else is is missing? Anything a deal breaker? Thanks everyone!

9MB - Dimmable Interior LED Lighting
8EA - Bi-Xenon(TM) Headlights w/PDLS
7X8 - ReverCamera-ParkAssisFrontRear
7T1 - PCM with Navigation Module
7B6 - 12-Volt Outlet in Rear Center
6XT - Automatically Dimming Exterior
6Q8 - Gear selector dark wood (walnu
5MG - Walnut Interior Package
4L6 - Auto Dimming Interior Rearview
4A3 - Heated Front Seats
EXT - TPMS
3FU - Panorama Roof System
2ZH - Heated3-spokeMultifuncSW
1N3 - Power Steering Plus
UN1 - Online Services
QV4 - SiriusXM(TM) Sat Radio Rcvr
PU1 - Convenience Package
PP6 - Light Comfort Package with Mem
PH4 - Walnut Interior Package includ
G1G - 8-speed TipS w/Auto Start Stop
3L4 - Driver Memory Package

 

Seems pretty well packaged for me. However, I have never heard of non-Bose in a 958.
Does it have stock wheels? If your dealership allows, you might want to upgrade/replace the wheels with another Panamera or Cayenne at the dealer.

 

It has the Nav system so that means it has a few extra speakers and a bit more power over the base system.

I'm not an audio freak, but I appreciate good sound and have spent lots of money customizing systems in the past.

Give my past history, I did not upgrade the stereo in mine because I know for the price I can improve the base system if I so desired. It would be a better overall system than the Bose too.

So I went with the base system + Nav with the belief that I would upgrade it after the fact myself. Surprisingly, however, I find the system to be pretty decent. That's not to say I couldn't do better or that there is no difference with the more expensive options, just that it is much better than I expected.

I suggest you take a sample of your music and listen to it to see if it works for you or not.

 

Sounds nicely equipped, what happened to the turbo you were looking at?

 

was thinking about asking them to swap for my current RS Spyders. You think that will fly? I would think my car would sell better with a brand new set of tires anyway.

that was very helpful. Thanks! Are there issues upgrading speakers & amp while utilizing PCM?

Turbo wasn't as good of a deal as i had hoped. Plus that dealership offered me much less for the trade-in.

 

Speakers are a straight swap (unless you are getting some that need more power).

For Amps its a bit more complicated since you can't change the HU, but most of the big players have units that take care of the heavy lifting and from there its just adding Amps and running cable as usual.

 

Anything new coming with the '14's that's worth holding out for?

Also, I'm also losing my 14 way seats. I do enjoy the lumbar support but I assume/hope I'll forget about it after a few month. Are the 8 way sufficient?

Lastly, I'm also losing PASM and PTV on top of my 6sp manual . Will I survive???

 

Do you have any advice on what brand to use and how to go about doing the swap?

I found that while the midrange and bass on the +navi speakers were pretty good, the highs are rather.. harsh. It didn't bother me very much initially, but I wouldn't mind improving things if I can :P

 

I haven't looked into specifics since I've been satisfied and I haven't built a system reusing a MFG's HU. My knowledge on the subject is based on information from the audio installers that taught me how to build systems.

As to your sound, is loudness turned on? Initially I thought the system sounded like crap and I was going to go straight to my audio guy for opinions, but then I found that loudness was turned on and turning it off changed the dynamics entirely. Its still far from the greatest system in the world, but its good enough that my money and effort are going to other things.

 

Turned Loudness off after the first day.. it was only useful for when you're driving at high speeds and can't really hear anything anyway

I'm probably just spoiled by the Mark Levinson system I had on my Lexus before I got the Cayenne. Slightly regretting not getting the Bose system, but the general consensus seems to be that the Bose isn't really worth it and the Burmeister's way too expensive for me

 

No PASM or PTV...Why you would possibly go for this car?

 

I think you're giving up too much.

The seats, audio, PTV and PDCC are so critical to me in this truck.

The 14 way is that much better then the 8 way. There is no comparison.

The audio is relative depending how discerning your audiophile ears are. I think the difference between the CDR and Bose is noticeable. I think the jump from Bose to Burm is only noticeable and appreciated if you are a audiophile that can actually hear the sound stage differences. Not many can.

PTV and PDCC make this truck for me. It really makes this truck the best handling and best driving truck in the segment.

 

This car will be my wife's daily in a year or so. Until then, I'm hoping I can live with it. Not idea, but a nicely optioned cayenne for her IMO.

 

Ok,thanks for the explanation
While she might not need a turbo,why would you not want your significant other to have as many driving aids as possible?
PDCC,PASM are there for a reason and extremely effective and improve the safe handling of the car
..Whether you drive slow or fast
Ps:I would go for the turbo

 

Gbx, I saw a few 2011certified turbos in auto trader in the mid 80k range. I think they can still be negotiated down further. How much did the dealer you went to want for the CTT if you don't mind me asking?