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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 06:39 AM
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 09:04 AM
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I dont see why not, some Mercedes and BMW are already made in China, the biggest luxury car market in the world.
On the other hand, I drove a chinese built MG (yes the former British) for a month and you wouldnt believe how good it was, nothing luxurious but very well assambled with some quality materials, maybe better than some cheap American made cars.
 

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It won't be all of them, just the ones for China. I recall reading something a few years ago that more and more car companies were doing this (I think in India too) as it gets around some heavy taxes that are placed on foreign cars.
 
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It will only be for the chinese market I'm sure, since I have more experience with Lexus, I will use it as reference

Below was one of the point Lexus made before deciding to build factories in China
When shopping last year for his first car, Will Zhang considered a Lexus CT200h and a BMW 320i. Though he preferred the Lexus, he went with the BMW because at 340,000 yuan($55,400) it was 18 percent cheaper.
While the Lexus lists for about $600 less than the BMW in the U.S., in China it’s $13,000 more because the German automaker produces its cars in the country, whereas made-in-Japan Lexus faces a 25 percent tariff.
 
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even if it was assembled in china, im sure it will all be QC'd to Porsche standards and everything will be fine. all apple products are assembled in china and theyre great. I would only be wary if they were assembled with Chinese made parts, which they wont be. Just because our cars are assembled or made in Germany, do you think all the factory line workers are actually german? in Germany, a lot of labor workers etc are Turkish. Turkish people there are like the Mexican laborers of California but in Germany. (ps, im not being racist just merely stating the facts.)
 
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In the 90s VW Golfs were assembled in Mexico supposedly according to VW standards, but the quality between one from DE and one from MX was night and day. All the same parts and supposedly the same procedures, but I don't know a single owner of that vintage that didn't have constant issues.

That's not to say China (or Mexico) can't assemble a car well, just that it's apparently not as simple as having the same procedures and same QA standards.

And aren't portions of the Cayenne actually assembled in one of the old Eastern Bloc countries?
 
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In the 90s VW Golfs were assembled in Mexico supposedly according to VW standards, but the quality between one from DE and one from MX was night and day. All the same parts and supposedly the same procedures, but I don't know a single owner of that vintage that didn't have constant issues.

That's not to say China (or Mexico) can't assemble a car well, just that it's apparently not as simple as having the same procedures and same QA standards.

And aren't portions of the Cayenne actually assembled in one of the old Eastern Bloc countries?


I believe the bare bone bodys are made and painted in Slovakia then shipped to Leipzig for final assembly.
 
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I toured the factory last year. It appeared to me most if not all of the workers were young well groomed German guys in white jump suits.
When I worked for Boeing, they started making some carbon parts in China. For the first year or so all the parts made there were rejected due to quality issues. That was over 20 years ago and now it's a different story. Apple products are good example.
Obviously the equipment that is used to assemble, lift, turn the vehicles are very sophisticated at the factory but that can be duplicated. If the quality control is held to the same standards in Leipzig with experienced Porsche staff to start with, I don't see a big problem but personally I'd pay more for and feel better with a German made vehicle until I knew more.
 
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Aren't we missing an important point? If we in the US charged at extra 25% or more for cars built outside of the US, we would have Porsche rushing into the US to keep market share, and our manufacturing jobs would remain in the US - and that's even ignoring the child labor and exploitative Chinese adult labor policies. (BMW and Mercedes are here already.) Then, the Chinese rip off our intellectual property (have you seen the Chinese iPhone copies?) and our (and Germany's) innovations are gone without a fair economic return.
 
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Quality standards/procedures are always available to follow, what really matters is whether the factory and the workers will follow them.... Been working in China for couple years, what post on the wall and print in the handbook not always transfer to what people really do on the assembly line....
Been working in the automotive industry, it takes at least 1 year to get parts approval in the U.S./ Europe, it only takes about 6 months to approve the same parts in China...
 
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