wax comaprison: SV Saphir vs Pinnacle souverain vs
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wax comaprison: SV Saphir vs Pinnacle souverain vs
A post that I got from a member of another forum. He said it was okay for me to post his findings.
Pretty nice write up.
Pretty nice write up.
I just picked up two black 99 wrx fenders from a junk yard in order for me to compare two products and different applications:
I prep them for polish for paint correction I used;
Menzerna SIP, 106, 85rd w/orange white green pads,
I finished one part with 2 coats of swissvax saphir, one with 2 coats of pinacle souverain, and one with 1 coat of poorboy EXP and 1 coat of saphir.
Here are the before pics
test spot:
1 coat of swissvax saphir:
wide angle (2coats of souverain on the left/2coats of saphir on the right)
Close ups:
This is 1 coat of poorboy exp + 1 coat of saphir
All those product have different results they all bead perfectly but to the touch 2 coat of swissvax are so smooth, also swissvax looks deeper (more black).
Since those parts are from the junkyard I didn't spend too much time correcting but the paint was close to perfect (except deep scratches...)
hope you guys enjoyed.
PS: I am the worst photograph sorry for the quality of the pics...
next week i have zymol glasur to test and i ll post some results
I prep them for polish for paint correction I used;
Menzerna SIP, 106, 85rd w/orange white green pads,
I finished one part with 2 coats of swissvax saphir, one with 2 coats of pinacle souverain, and one with 1 coat of poorboy EXP and 1 coat of saphir.
Here are the before pics
test spot:
1 coat of swissvax saphir:
wide angle (2coats of souverain on the left/2coats of saphir on the right)
Close ups:
This is 1 coat of poorboy exp + 1 coat of saphir
All those product have different results they all bead perfectly but to the touch 2 coat of swissvax are so smooth, also swissvax looks deeper (more black).
Since those parts are from the junkyard I didn't spend too much time correcting but the paint was close to perfect (except deep scratches...)
hope you guys enjoyed.
PS: I am the worst photograph sorry for the quality of the pics...
next week i have zymol glasur to test and i ll post some results
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From that it really does appear that the Saphir is much sharper than the Souveran. If you look at the detail on the individual bricks on the house, in the Saphir they are quite well defined, wheras when you look at them with the Souveran they do look blurry.
Now of course this could be from a myriad of reasons, so by no means take that simple example as a clear cut contrast between the two. It could be lighting, or the simple reflective angle off of the fender, clearcoat differences, etc. Still though, that one observation is quite compelling.
Now of course this could be from a myriad of reasons, so by no means take that simple example as a clear cut contrast between the two. It could be lighting, or the simple reflective angle off of the fender, clearcoat differences, etc. Still though, that one observation is quite compelling.
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+1... one reason I hate looking at wax comparison photos online... all I see is different shiny painted car parts... and with different monitors, many people are seeing different things...
This was a neat test and I can see the effort that went into it. However, it still isn't a cantrolled environment where we can truly see side-by-side comparisons. A true test needs to be done in a lab where the results can be duplicated many times to fully compare the waxes. The lighting, panel angles, tests, all need to be quantified and a procedure writeup needs to be done. Kind of like our high school or college bio or chemistry classes. You need a structured experiment with hypothesis, data, and summary of the experiment. "A" for effort....
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This was a neat test and I can see the effort that went into it. However, it still isn't a cantrolled environment where we can truly see side-by-side comparisons. A true test needs to be done in a lab where the results can be duplicated many times to fully compare the waxes. The lighting, panel angles, tests, all need to be quantified and a procedure writeup needs to be done. Kind of like our high school or college bio or chemistry classes. You need a structured experiment with hypothesis, data, and summary of the experiment. "A" for effort....
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If I had a penny for every one of these wax tests ... I must admit, I enjoy reading these supposedly stringent "tests" of products (starting with the Guru Reports one). But the bottom line is that no matter how fair and unbiased the person conducting the test is, it is still not being conducted in a proper manner. The tests need to be conducted in a double blind standard for them to be considered proper. That means that not only do the judges not know which panel has which wax, but also the person applying the wax should not know which wax they're using. Now I know this is all but impossible since we all know the cans and smells of each wax, but at least that person should not be present when the judging is conducted.
I would also like to see tests done that judge the look of a wax not just the day it was done, but also in a month after three or four washes.
Matt
I would also like to see tests done that judge the look of a wax not just the day it was done, but also in a month after three or four washes.
Matt
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I don't deny that proper tests should be done I thought that this would be interesting as I do think the forum member did put some time into this test.
At the end of the day the prep work is the most important part of it and the forum member I feel did a great job prepping the paint for the last step.
At the end of the day the prep work is the most important part of it and the forum member I feel did a great job prepping the paint for the last step.
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I think this test was one of the better I have seen. It still has not convinced me to upgrade my wax into the $150 plus range from my current Lusso Oro solution for a Arctic Silver car.
I wish there were more tests using a light colored car (silver, white). Anyone care to donate some waxes and I'll conduct a dbl blind test as suggested?
I wish there were more tests using a light colored car (silver, white). Anyone care to donate some waxes and I'll conduct a dbl blind test as suggested?
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