2009 Porsche 911 Revealed With Direct Injection, Dual-Clutch
#1
2009 Porsche 911 Revealed With Direct Injection, Dual-Clutch
Not only do we get news this morning of a whole host of upgrades for the 2009 Porsche 911 lineup, we now finally get a look at the facelift that goes along with 'em. Just as we saw in the leaked information from last month, the newly refreshed Porsches get power bumps across the range, thanks to a direct injection system it'll get 20 HP more in the regular old 911 (345 HP) and 30 HP in the Carrera S (385 HP). To go along with that added grunt, the cars get the new seven-speed dual-clutch transmission able to shift itself without removing power from the wheels — whoa. It seems you can teach an old Bruce a new trick. Full press release after the jump.
#2
missed the mark?
Technically amazing but they've missed the mark with the tail ights and the shifting mechanisms... while Porsche sequential shift race cars (and all? others) use forward to downshift and backward for upshift, Porsche has done the new trans the opposite way. This baffles the mind. Furthermore the "paddles" on the steering wheel are not. They are PUSH buttons... we all know how much more finesse and accuracy your muscles have "pullling" instead of pushing....
#3
agreed with all you said.
those tail lights are too bat mobile/ fast and furious for me, i wonder if theres an option on the list to have regular lights instead of LEDs, wouldnt that be great.
ref the sequential, thats very counter intuitive if thats the case regarding direction for gear change. given their track cars dont do it this way i see no reason why the road cars would, what about all that pedigree through racing mantra.
as for buttons on the wheel. no no no no......no
if you dont want to make paddles fair enough, just make a very nice gear lever resembling a manual and have that give sole control. steering wheel buttons are dumb and outdated and will offset any advances made with their auto boxes by keeping the interface like that of a game controler and drive interaction at zero.
those tail lights are too bat mobile/ fast and furious for me, i wonder if theres an option on the list to have regular lights instead of LEDs, wouldnt that be great.
ref the sequential, thats very counter intuitive if thats the case regarding direction for gear change. given their track cars dont do it this way i see no reason why the road cars would, what about all that pedigree through racing mantra.
as for buttons on the wheel. no no no no......no
if you dont want to make paddles fair enough, just make a very nice gear lever resembling a manual and have that give sole control. steering wheel buttons are dumb and outdated and will offset any advances made with their auto boxes by keeping the interface like that of a game controler and drive interaction at zero.
#4
probably designed the steering wheel like this for safety... if they had shift paddles a la f430 that makes you have less grip on the steering wheel... pushbuttons would work just fine... you have more grip and can use your thumbs to upshift/downshift... just because they have done something different doesn't mean it wont work well...
I disagree it would be counter intuitive .. its a more a training/getting use to issue...
but in the end I would have to drive one and see how it felt after an hour...
does anybody know with PDK if you can change gears from the lever itself on the console?
I disagree it would be counter intuitive .. its a more a training/getting use to issue...
but in the end I would have to drive one and see how it felt after an hour...
does anybody know with PDK if you can change gears from the lever itself on the console?
#5
probably designed the steering wheel like this for safety... if they had shift paddles a la f430 that makes you have less grip on the steering wheel... pushbuttons would work just fine... you have more grip and can use your thumbs to upshift/downshift... just because they have done something different doesn't mean it wont work well...
I disagree it would be counter intuitive .. its a more a training/getting use to issue...
but in the end I would have to drive one and see how it felt after an hour...
does anybody know with PDK if you can change gears from the lever itself on the console?
I disagree it would be counter intuitive .. its a more a training/getting use to issue...
but in the end I would have to drive one and see how it felt after an hour...
does anybody know with PDK if you can change gears from the lever itself on the console?
#6
actually, if your at a place where your hands CANT stay at a perfect 3 and 9 position on the wheel (say a 30 mph hairpin), having to push something thats now twisted up seems much harder than just being able to pull a paddle. Thats just me though...I love my SMG in the m5...
#7
I mean, I dont think it will kill the car, but there is a reason why racecars either use a standard manual, paddles (ok, REAR, single command pushbuttons on say an f1 car) or a sequential. If these buttons are single command, then it wont be bad, but I know I wouldnt want to search for the top or bottom of the button if things get a bit hairy...know what I mean?
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