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Going to steel brakes (iron) from PCCB

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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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Going to steel brakes (iron) from PCCB

I asked this before, and never got an answer.

Is switching from ceramics to steel (iron) as simple as replacing the rotors and the pads?

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PS Anyone have a picture of an arctic silver GT3 with black GT3 side graphics? I want to know what that looks like.
 
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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Just heard today that yes, it is just a straight forward rotor swap. I assume there are special pads for the ceramics...?
 
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Can anyone confirm this.
 
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yes, pads for ceramic are different. it cannot be used on steel rotors
http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/0...kes/index.html
 
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Originally Posted by sheep911
yes, pads for ceramic are different. it cannot be used on steel rotors
http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/0...kes/index.html
yes but can the steel rotors and pad sets be mated with the pccb rotors and what not?
 
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Yes it is a straight swap, the rotors are the same size pccb and iron.
 
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The rotors are not the same size. PCCB rotors are 350mm front and rear. Iron are 330mm. I assume you are talking about a 996 GT3?
 
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I assume that you are not pleased with the PCCB rev 1. I have the Rev2 PCCB (997 version) on my 996 GT3 RS. They are awesome.
 
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You could go for the CUP car disks. These are the right size, 350mm, for the fronts. Maybe someone will chime in with a replacement for the back rotors since I have no experience in PCCB on the 996 GT3.
 
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Performance Friction has a great replacement setup with rotors/hats and pads
 
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There are 2 threads on issues around PCCB that contain a lot of information on cast iron replacement options. Performance friction and AP are probably the 2 kits that are preferred. You replace only the disks with their hats and the pads.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...urability.html

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...on-rotors.html
 
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Fronts are the same for the swap unless it’s the first gen gt3 the only difference is the rears that are 330mm (iron) vs. 350mm (Composite). The fronts are swappable with OEM parts from the dealer, Brembo makes a rear rotor that will take care of the size and offset of the rear. I cannot remember the part number off the top of my head. Its fairly common though, I will post it if I run across it.
 
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I know we seriously disagreed politically but why did you want to go to iron rotors and brake set up?
Are you intending to go for track / race set up?

Good luck with the conversion.

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Ranger, cars and politics are completely separate.

I ended up with a car with iron rotors anyway, so the point is moot. But I kept hearing that even gen II PCCB was not up to much track use, so it was better to go with iron. There seems to be a lot of people sounding like they know what they are talking about on both sides of this issue, so how is the motoring public to decide? I was opting for "better safe than sorry".

But I didn't end up with PCCB, so I can safely say I don't give a rats **** now.
 
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pccb vs steel, gen 1 or gen 2 doesn't matter, the following applies.

pccb is much better than steel, there is NO question, i dont care if you are on track or street, PCCB is better period.

pccb also last longer than steel, doesn't matter if you are on track or street. but it doesn't last as long as the price delta relative to steel.

so, the easy way to look at this is if you have the money, get pccb and you are done. two sets of pccb rotors would easily last you 25-30 track days. but that's about 30k in rotors alone per year. if you like to save a few bux, then run steel. it's still very good, just not as good as pccb.

i like pccb, but i can't afford it so i run steel.
my street car runs pccb, which lasts foreover.
 


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