GT3/GT2 Performance and Track Discussion on the Porsche GT3 and GT2

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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by vividracing
It should be up by Monday.

Brake Fluid can now be ordered at Vivid Racing
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/e...d-p-65948.html
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Endless RF-650 Racing Super Fluid

Used in the top categories of motorsports including F1, WRC, and Paris Dakar. Recognized by circuit users worldwide. Especially developed for long endurance races ("24 hours") where extreme high temperature stability is required, but it is suitable for all types of competition. Optimal for maximum heat load conditions unheard of within the street stage. Endless is the official supplier of brake fluid to the Honda Racing F1 Team where the RF-650 is used exclusively in all testing and racing activities. Non-silicone based brake fluid.

323 celius is dry boiling point while wet is 218 degrees

0.5 Liter per bottle.



Endless S-FOUR DOT-4 Brake Fluid

Brake fluid becomes older after 2 to 3 years of usage and the boiling point temperature decreases increasing the unfortunate possibilities of vapor lock. Endless recommends replacing brake fluid when replacing brake pads. The target focus during research and development of the Endless S-Four brake fluid is the hard driving street stage.

1 Liter per bottle.

295 celius is dry boiling point while wet is 187 degrees. High temperature range and brake force can be kept. Reasonably priced for street use with long life.

This product is perfect for those looking to change out the OEM brake fluid or for those who want more performance alike.

Excellent - Thanks
 
Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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LandJet - I personally do not have experience with this pad yet. However after talking to Endless USA in depth, they gave me several scenarios in competition comparing these pads to Pagid. We all use and like Pagid, there is nothing wrong with them. I would not suggest that the peddle feel would be harder, I would suggest that due to the heat capacity and material, they just last longer.

Pads are online now too - http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/brakes-brake-pads-c-4238_5307.html?filter_id=519

 
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Interesting, willing to give them a shot, but I can't figure out from the link provided if the pads being sold are the Street, Street/track, or full track. Looking for full track, comparible to Pagid RS29's for steel rotor RS
 
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look under the "hood" of a cup theres a sticker that says use SRF only.
 
Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Erik - We have not got all the pads loaded yet. But call me and I can go through the options for you.
 
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I wonder which and how many f1 teams they supply for.

Might be just toyota and honda.
 
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Erik - I did some research. For your application go with the N35S compound. I have not loaded it to my site yet. The N35S is a semi metallic, that is best used for trail braking. It is good for mid weight cars, Porsche, and exhibits stable performance at high temperatures and brake loads with quick, sharp, and responsive braking force. This pad provides stable and excellent peddle modulation and is Endless first recommendation in comparison to the Pagid RS19. This pad is retail for about $340.
 
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Originally Posted by Va122
look under the "hood" of a cup theres a sticker that says use SRF only.
I think that statement is now obsolete. The new Cup and RSR's are using Endless Racing Fluid and I see in another thread that almost all of the more successful endurance teams are running Endless Racing pads as well...
 
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supposedly their stuff lasts twice as long without any demerits usually associated with longer lasting product? i found that hard to believe and was looking for info when i came across this forum/thread. pretty legit stuff for a company that hardly anyone's heard of.

someone told me that a certain Porsche team in ALMS is going to start using Endless pads too. makes sense to me now that i know Manthey's winning the Nurburgring 24 with them.

seeing their logo on the Risi Competizione ALMS car is what initially sparked my curiosity, then i found this press release and was intrigued.

anyone stateside ever use their stuff?
 
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Originally Posted by vividracing
Erik - I did some research. For your application go with the N35S compound. I have not loaded it to my site yet. The N35S is a semi metallic, that is best used for trail braking. It is good for mid weight cars, Porsche, and exhibits stable performance at high temperatures and brake loads with quick, sharp, and responsive braking force. This pad provides stable and excellent peddle modulation and is Endless first recommendation in comparison to the Pagid RS19. This pad is retail for about $340.

Just spent the day running my 996TT on Endless ME20 brakepads, installed last week and bedded in during first session. I can tell you this much - these worked ABSOLUTELY GREAT for the Turbo throughout the day. For the first time, absolutely NO issues with a little numb brake feel, not much sogginess and no lack of bite/friction. This was a REALLY good product which I will use for the whole 2010 season. And I still had really old fluid... Have their RF650 but didn't find time to flush the system yet. Doing so I am sure will only make it even better.
 

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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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Good to hear, I'm due for some pads and just used my last set of RS29's. Maybe the prices have gone up, per the website the fronts would cost $559 and $339 for the rears in the N35S compound which is significantly higher then Pagids
 
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So in 2015, people still use Endless pads and brake fluid or the market switched to some other brand?
 
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Originally Posted by Sc00ter
So in 2015, people still use Endless pads and brake fluid or the market switched to some other brand?
Endless fluid and PFC pads on my '04 996 race car and very happy with that combo.
 
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We have been using and selling Endless for years..

Really good stuff we have run there pads on our road cars and our race cars over the years.. From Club racing, to Pirelli World Challenge to Sebring 12 hours.


We have real world experience and data with this product.


If you have any questions please feel free to email us directly.


Sales@gmgracing.com or Fabryce@gmgracing.com
 
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