I have the yellow carbon ceramic brakes on my 996 GT3. Everyone has told me to take them off my car since I only use the car for track days and random weekend drives. What is a good asking price for my brakes if I go to sell them? They have 12k miles on them. Also, what should I replace them with?

 

I have them on my 997 RS. People told me the same thing. However, I love them! So I just change pads when they are 60% worn to keep from damaging the rotors. If you need to, Brembo or StopTech make solid direct replacements steels. Also, be sure to get braided lines and racing fluid to help prevent fade. You should do that anyway, whether ceramic or steel.

 

If you want to go with steel brake conversion. Contact Suncoat, they have conversion kit for your PCCB system.

 

Have them on my '04 Gt3 and they kick ***. Never an issue with cracking. (I did switch to steel for a year, but then put it back to stock to see what would happen.)

 

I wouldn't sell them. If you ever sell the car you will get more for them than the resale hit without them.

 

Sprinty is correct. Many track rats remove and keep their PCCB's in a safe place and use steel as it's cheaper to replace, as brakes (pads & rotors) are a wear and tear item. Then when or if you sell your car, just put the PCCBs back on for a higher resale price.

 

Performance wise, is there a big difference between the ceramic and steel brakes?

 

I'm confused. I thought the whole purpose of PCCB's was for the track?

 

Allegedly, PCCB rotors can wear extensively when tracked hard... leaving a huge repair bill when due for replacement. I'd also heard of cases where the carbon-ceramic rotors start delaminating from track abuse, but not sure if that was only the very earliest systems... it may've been.

The post above is the first time I've heard more frequent pad changes (R&R at 60% wear) allieviates the problem - hadn't heard that before; cool if it's true, it'd be cheap insurance for those rotors.

 

what are folks paying for the replacement pads for PCCB? is Porsche the only brand that works?

 

I found a company that sell them at around 250$ front and 200 rear

 

I track my car often and have the early generation PCCB. I swapped the rotors all around for the Brembo floating rotors. Everything remains the same except the front hats need to be changed also. I still use the stock pads and do not experience any fade. Only draw back is more brake dust.

 

There is NO difference is stopping ability or distance with PCCB....anyone telling you otherwise is just wrong. Tests have shown equal stopping distance (stopping distance determined more by the tire than anything else).

PCCB's are the ultimate catch-22.....no advantage on the street and you cant use them on the track because they ARE a wear item and will cost more to replace...hence the reason most track folks switch to steel/iron. Only advantage is less brake dust (though you can eliminate most of this on iron brakes by switching to carbon kevlar pads).

I really dont understand the "put them in a box for resale" reasoning...you pay $9k+ with tax for PCCB, then $5k plus for iron replacements (plus any labor to switch them) to maybe get 3-5k more at resale.

Bill

 

I cannot agree. The most important aspect of PCCB is lower unsprung weight. Search the web, and you'll find research on how important, and how the dramatic effects of this are. Also, we all know about the gyro efect that keeps a moving wheel in a straight line. If you have a bike(I do) you know what I mean. The lighter the wheel and rotating assembly the faster the car accelerates, and the faster it corneres. Also, with the spreading of these systems, the prices will drop - this is a universal truth.

The prices are now around 5,500 $ for the rotors, and 500-600 for the pads. Someone here said that with light tracking, and street use the rotors will last for more than 100,000 miles. On my 996 I have changed 2 set of rotors in 50,000 miles with no track time at all, and countless numbers of pads. With these in mind, I can make some simple calculations and demonstrate that the PCCB is not that much more expensive than the steel rotors.

 

i have pccb's on my 2010 gt3 and can't say enough about them. there is truth in the fact that tire bite during braking is the limiting factor, but to get the same braking with the pccb takes alot less effort. and the weight savings is around 40lbs (of unsprung weight), even over the 2010 gt3 steels.
personally, i am glad i ordered them.

alan