Gt2 rs vs 458
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(Sorry. Forgot this thread was a GT2RS vs 458.....)
Gt3rs has a ring time of 7:33 but on sport cups, 458 does 7:39 on street tires I believe.Originally Posted by KaamaCat
Has nobody compared the 458 to the Gen2 GT3RS.....? (I'm looking at current ring times and see the Gen2 GT3RS above any of the FCars at the moment...and seems to be in darn good standings for a car you can drive every day)(Sorry. Forgot this thread was a GT2RS vs 458.....)
Evo mag has a comparison video by Chris harris
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The 458 scud by the time it comes out will be facing a new generation of GT2. This round goes to Porsche. By a long shot.Originally Posted by kkilmore89
I would compare the scud to the gt2 rs before trying to compare a 458 to scud or 458 to a gt2 rs. Its apples to oranges. The gt2rs and scud were both built to be more track focused while still being street legal. Now when teh 458 comes out with a scud version then you can compare and see what happens. My moneys on the 458 since there will be even newer technology out when they build that, as well as they can build it to beat the RS. But porsche is still better looking and its german lol. Plus you won't spend half as much on the gt2 rs as the scud most likely
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Originally Posted by breadslicers
Ok guys I give up, it is hot in every way. My gt3 has had three RMS leaks and has been in shop for 6 weeks with another leak at 4,500 miles. My Gt2 is wonderful and never leaks. My turbo never leaks. The 458 is unbelievable in every way, nobody wants anything too hot except..... and I have agreed not driven the Gt2RS. Porsche as they say builds race cars and so does Ferrari. I think when and if you do get to drive the 458 you will agree the technology is amazing, perfect blend of race and street car in one box. I think the Gt3 is a better balance of that than the GT2 with the hot torque curve. I love them all, including the hotties. Cheers to all
This is the problem with todays supercars. Some people, do not want the raw exprience because they lack the skill to drive a supercar. They don't want to work hard for the car to reward them with speed. They just want easy plug and play - go fast. Forget about the rawness exprience, now its about the overwhelping electronic make the car go fast, not the driver
I need a cgt and a 996 gt2/gt3... and actually drivde it on the road course, with my talent making it go fast. I use to have heated arguments with my cousin when I was young of which car maker was the best (Ferrari vs. Porsche). I was the biggest and still am the biggest Ferrari fan BUT it took me awhile to realize that Porsche just builts a much superior car. Ferrari's sure do look and sound amazing though (thats about it) . I would take the Porsche for track duty, and a Ferrari to drop panties. That's coming from a die heart Ferrari fan. Every Ferrari after the F50 besides the 360 SC, IMO have been let downs for a true drivers car- which is what i'm seeking in a car. To that, even the previous ones, just lack quality, and where a bucket of bolts even with 0 miles . Car's falling apart, super fragile. Sight. They call them Italian Trash for a reason you know..
I agree, when I get my next GT3 it will be an RS, I personally think the current GT2 spools up too fast for street driving and prefer to run it at the track only. The GT3 is perfect in every way except they all leak oil, or will sometime at the RMS. The 458 is going to be a great street car as well, just drove 4 at Mont Tremblant. 
Well, the 458 is quick in a straight line: 1/4-mile 10.9sec @ 134 mph. See http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/driven/1008_ferrari_458_italia_test/index.html.
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Originally Posted by jakegt3
Well, the 458 is quick in a straight line: 1/4-mile 10.9sec @ 134 mph. See http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/driven/1008_ferrari_458_italia_test/index.html.
I call BS on this one, 134 trap speed with 556hp????
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i would agree. 134 trap seems a bit agressive for a 562 bhp car. who knows, it may have been one of their HOT cars for the press. Originally Posted by gt34me
I call BS on this one, 134 trap speed with 556hp????
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I need a cgt and a 996 gt2/gt3... and actually drivde it on the road course, with my talent making it go fast. I use to have heated arguments with my cousin when I was young of which car maker was the best (Ferrari vs. Porsche). I was the biggest and still am the biggest Ferrari fan BUT it took me awhile to realize that Porsche just builts a much superior car. Ferrari's sure do look and sound amazing though (thats about it) . I would take the Porsche for track duty, and a Ferrari to drop panties. That's coming from a die heart Ferrari fan. Every Ferrari after the F50 besides the 360 SC, IMO have been let downs for a true drivers car- which is what i'm seeking in a car. To that, even the previous ones, just lack quality, and where a bucket of bolts even with 0 miles . Car's falling apart, super fragile. Sight. They call them Italian Trash for a reason you know..
+10000000.. Enrique, you are preaching to the choir as far as I am concerned... I just canceled my order for my new McLaren MP4-12C based on the private preview I had at Pebble Beach.. just too many things are now done for you by the Computer.. Originally Posted by f1crazydriver
This is the problem with todays supercars. Some people, do not want the raw exprience because they lack the skill to drive a supercar. They don't want to work hard for the car to reward them with speed. They just want easy plug and play - go fast. Forget about the rawness exprience, now its about the overwhelping electronic make the car go fast, not the driver I need a cgt and a 996 gt2/gt3... and actually drivde it on the road course, with my talent making it go fast. I use to have heated arguments with my cousin when I was young of which car maker was the best (Ferrari vs. Porsche). I was the biggest and still am the biggest Ferrari fan BUT it took me awhile to realize that Porsche just builts a much superior car. Ferrari's sure do look and sound amazing though (thats about it) . I would take the Porsche for track duty, and a Ferrari to drop panties. That's coming from a die heart Ferrari fan. Every Ferrari after the F50 besides the 360 SC, IMO have been let downs for a true drivers car- which is what i'm seeking in a car. To that, even the previous ones, just lack quality, and where a bucket of bolts even with 0 miles . Car's falling apart, super fragile. Sight. They call them Italian Trash for a reason you know..
As you point out, the days of a sports car requiring some actual talent from the driver are fast diminishing... Rather than boasting to your buddies at the track that you just kicked their ***, we are approaching a situation where all you will be able to boast about is how YOUR ECU programmer's traction control and stability control algorithm just kicked the crap out of THEIR ECU programmer's algorithm...
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Who cares anyway. I think they could train a monkey to do that in an F1 car.Originally Posted by jakegt3
Well, the 458 is quick in a straight line: 1/4-mile 10.9sec @ 134 mph. See http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...st/index.html.
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But even if are you dealing with oil leaking issues (which is frustrating and Porsche should definitely take care of it), I still think that's better than worrying about your 458 catching on fire:
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/41559/
Co sign.. I put on over 16k miles, prob 10k track miles, suffice to say not one pin drop of oil has leaked, or no issues...Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
Sounds like you have issues. My car doesn't leak oil nor does any of the guys I know that own GT2s. But even if are you dealing with oil leaking issues (which is frustrating and Porsche should definitely take care of it), I still think that's better than worrying about your 458 catching on fire:
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/41559/
BTW how can you be confident that the 458 is be all end all in comparison to Porsches that you haven't drive or come out yet (GT3 RS, 918) get real.
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In any event, a 458 and Scud are no comparision and the 458 and GT2 RS are no comparison either. What to compare a GT2RS to then? I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Anyone know the real story on what Porsche is doing to protect consumers against the likes of dealers holding an auction. I know one who is in CA, for which anyone who plays is nuts, might as well flush that money. I doubt the car with appreciate any time soon.
Cheers to all
Just some food for though, your GT2 and GT2 RS = no comparison as well.Originally Posted by breadslicers
Well there, seems Porsche has never had any fire or recall issues? If not it confirms the German arrogance I've so long known. In any event, a 458 and Scud are no comparision and the 458 and GT2 RS are no comparison either. What to compare a GT2RS to then? I guess we'll have to wait and see. Anyone know the real story on what Porsche is doing to protect consumers against the likes of dealers holding an auction. I know one who is in CA, for which anyone who plays is nuts, might as well flush that money. I doubt the car with appreciate any time soon.
Cheers to all
The 458 automatically "heels and toes", downshifting during braking. What's next? A large radio-controlled or robotic sports car? No need to actually put yourself in danger by driving or racing the car.
Well, the Ferrari F1 gearbox in the 458 and 599 is really no different in concept than the Porsche PDK - both rev match up and down perfectly, etc. There is no arguing that such gearboxes along with the launch and shift control software are faster, and it does allow a driver to concentrate on keeping a car in the correct position on the track andright at the adhesion limit in turns - so there is still a challenge to driving well.
But while I accept these gearboxes are inevitable and superior, I chose to buy an F430 -- one of the last two few dozen Ferraris ever to be made with a manual clutch gearbox, my dealer told me, because I prefer to shift my own gears.
But while I accept these gearboxes are inevitable and superior, I chose to buy an F430 -- one of the last two few dozen Ferraris ever to be made with a manual clutch gearbox, my dealer told me, because I prefer to shift my own gears.
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The 458 & 599 have different gearboxes. The 458's is a dual clutch (a la PDK) while the 599's is still the legacy single clutch automated manual. the 458 & California are the only current Ferraris with dual clutch transmissions.Originally Posted by Lee Willis
Well, the Ferrari F1 gearbox in the 458 and 599 is really no different in concept than the Porsche PDK - both rev match up and down perfectly, etc...
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What were your best lap times on LCMT with the 458 ?Originally Posted by breadslicers
Well, anyone thinking the GT2 RS will be as good as the new 458 is smoking something they should not. Just got back from Mont Tremblant driving school, and the 458 is way better than any Porsche will ever hope to be. I've got 8 porsches, but no matter the 458 is still better technologically. Can't wait to see the Challenge and Scud versions.............