GT3RS not a great everyday car. Heavy clutch, noisy. Great car but foolish to try to use as a DD.

 

458 for street, RS for track.

 

I wish I could afford either, but instead I am stuck in this miserable life where I cannot afford any luxuries. Oh well, I guess we all end up in the same place at the end. Good luck with your decision, either one is more then most will ever have.

 

Except on the ring. GT3RS for the track. 458 for DD.

 

Based on what times?

And is this because we spend most of our time on the 'Ring?

 

I don't know about that. CAR magazine just tested a bunch of cars on the track and the 458 even narrowly beat a GT2 RS on the track with a professional driver driving all of them.

 

I didnt say you did. I just said if you prefer to use the car for the track. Obviously with a GTR you wouldnt spend much time at the track. At least not more than a couple of laps

The Official 'Sport Auto' Nürburgring-laptimes
Track length: 20.600 m
Driver: Horst von Saurma
Telemetry: 2D and/or Vbox

7.24 min – Porsche 911 GT2 RS (997 mk2) – 620 hp, 1405 kg (w/o rollcage), semi-slicks
7.24 min – Gumpert Apollo Sport – 700 hp, 1458 kg, semi-slicks
7.30 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 - 500 hp, est. 1400 kg, semi-slicks
7.32 min – Porsche Carrera GT – 612 hp, 1473 kg
7.33 min – Porsche 911 GT2 (997 mk1) – 530 hp, 1497 kg, semi-slicks
7.33 min – Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997 mk2) – 450 hp, 1417 kg, semi-slicks
7.33 min – Pagani Zonda F – 602 hp, 1371 kg
7.34 min – Audi R8 GT – 560 hp, 1577 kg, semi-slicks
7.34 min – Koenigsegg CCR – 806 hp, 1418 kg
7.34 min – Nissan GT-R (R35 mk2) – 530 hp, 1770 kg (est.), semi-slicks, first drive
7.35 min – Ruf Rt12 (997) – 650 hp, 1573 kg, semi-slicks
7.36 min - Nissan GT-R (R35 mk2) - 530 hp, 1784 kg, semi-slicks, Supertest
7.38 min - Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera, 570 hp, 1493 kg, semi-slicks
7.38 min – Corvette ZR1 – 647 hp, 1533 kg
7.38 min – Lexus LFA – 560 hp, 1598 kg
7.38 min – Ferrari 458 Italia – 570 hp, 1540 kg
7.38 min – Nissan GT-R (R35 mk1) – 486 hp, 1778 kg, semi-slicks

 

I spend entire weekends at the track...

1. Ferrari 458 Italia - 1:37.80 (Autozeitung)
2. Porsche 911 GT3 (2011) - 1:38.10 (Autozeitung)

We could all bring up stats to back up our points. Nobody can deny that either of these cars are two of the best in the world (in their own genres). What I suggest is that the 458 is superior as a DD, and equal, if not superior, as a track car.

 

I don't think the Ring times are good comparisons because they are all done with different drivers on different days.

 

I believe the reference he used had the same driver HvS driving both cars...

I also thought this 458 was the rumored Ferrari with the mechanical issue (this is why I did not reference it).

 

agreed, that decision is a luxury problem, but hey, don`t give up on your dreams. remember:
the best things in life are free, anticipation is the best aphrodisiac and satisfaction is the end of desire.

so, your situation isn`t bad as long as u don`t give up on your dreams and desires!

 

Same driver - although it probably wasnt one of the factory prepped Ferrari's they release to the press . Sport Auto has the GT3RS quite far ahead of the 458. Worst case they are even. Quite a feat for the 911 that is over 100HP down on power and is a 6MT. No contest with the GT2RS.