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The DFI engine , PDK, and electric steering are all used for meeting improved fuel economy (dictated by world governmental regulations) and the current direction towards hybridization of race and supercars. The 20 inch wheels are forged and weigh the same as the 19 inch low pressure casts ones in 997.2 versions.
The new car is better spec'ed but the direct connection between the Cup cars and street cars have finally been severed in Porsches' newest offerings. The 2013 GT3 Cupcars retain their Mezgar engine (with their coolant pipe designs that are giving people fits when they sometimes pop off on the track causing spins) while the 2011+ Turbos have the DFI engine that is similar to the new GT3's (should silence those critics who were complaining about the bad design of watercooling the heads),
The new car is better spec'ed but the direct connection between the Cup cars and street cars have finally been severed in Porsches' newest offerings. The 2013 GT3 Cupcars retain their Mezgar engine (with their coolant pipe designs that are giving people fits when they sometimes pop off on the track causing spins) while the 2011+ Turbos have the DFI engine that is similar to the new GT3's (should silence those critics who were complaining about the bad design of watercooling the heads),
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Actually just to stir things up a little I thought that I might point out that on the Porsche website PDK is actually listed as a no cost option (see attached picture from the "Build Your Porsche" tool in the UK, I also checked the site in Germany and it also shows PDK as an option). Now it doesn't say what you get if you don't select PDK but the inference is that there is another choice, which is wierd.
Elsewhere on the site it says (and I quote) "The PDK comes as standard in the new 911 GT3. With seven performance-oriented gears where even 7th gear has a sports ratio engineered for maximum speed." So PDK is the standard and there's another option? What's with being able to not select PDK if it's the only option? .....
Elsewhere on the site it says (and I quote) "The PDK comes as standard in the new 911 GT3. With seven performance-oriented gears where even 7th gear has a sports ratio engineered for maximum speed." So PDK is the standard and there's another option? What's with being able to not select PDK if it's the only option? .....
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Unfortunately, it was pretty clear from the interview with Andreas Preuninger that there is no manual option for the 991 GT3. I'm all for wishful thinking, but I think it's in vain this time around.
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There is another option, when ticked you get a void where the PDK box was and flaps in the floor for your feet to protrude flint stone style... which is where your head is for wanting a manual box.
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all this bleating and crying is making my head hurt. There are choices move on. Crying into milk on forums isn't going to change anything.
Performance cars use to have 13" wheels and tall tyres... actually race cars used to have 21" wheels like the Bentley blower.
The Ford model T had 3 pedals and a lever to control the transmission, bet people cursed the 'new fashion' of just one pedal and a lever idea, god forbid lol!
Cars used to have fuel trim and ignition advance on the steering wheel (like late F1 cars lol), bet people though that was a good idea and the automated control of ignition and fuel was a really bad thing.
Horse riders were so perturbed that they thought cars were such a bad idea they made a guy with a flag walk in front.
People even thought the earth was flat and humans were around at the same time as the dinosaurs... fairly recently lol
Times move on, you get the picture...
Performance cars use to have 13" wheels and tall tyres... actually race cars used to have 21" wheels like the Bentley blower.
The Ford model T had 3 pedals and a lever to control the transmission, bet people cursed the 'new fashion' of just one pedal and a lever idea, god forbid lol!
Cars used to have fuel trim and ignition advance on the steering wheel (like late F1 cars lol), bet people though that was a good idea and the automated control of ignition and fuel was a really bad thing.
Horse riders were so perturbed that they thought cars were such a bad idea they made a guy with a flag walk in front.
People even thought the earth was flat and humans were around at the same time as the dinosaurs... fairly recently lol
Times move on, you get the picture...
What we're speaking of is the lack of us having a choice when we give our money to a car company to build us a car.
You can try a different point if you'd like, though.
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Porsche build a car for their own agenda and to meat the largest market demands, they have obviously done the work groups and studdies and deside the same as other performance car manufactures that driver aids, automated gear boxes etc is where the market is going.
There will always be a small group who change in anyway or a chaice not of their taste is an issue to them, like colour options, wheels and options the would have liked but the majority will buy this car because of the way Porsche presents it now... they can't and will not pander to every whim and thats the same for all marques.
You only ever get a choice thats desided for you if that makes sense...
There will always be a small group who change in anyway or a chaice not of their taste is an issue to them, like colour options, wheels and options the would have liked but the majority will buy this car because of the way Porsche presents it now... they can't and will not pander to every whim and thats the same for all marques.
You only ever get a choice thats desided for you if that makes sense...
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Porsche build a car for their own agenda and to meat the largest market demands, they have obviously done the work groups and studdies and deside the same as other performance car manufactures that driver aids, automated gear boxes etc is where the market is going.
There will always be a small group who change in anyway or a chaice not of their taste is an issue to them, like colour options, wheels and options the would have liked but the majority will buy this car because of the way Porsche presents it now... they can't and will not pander to every whim and thats the same for all marques.
You only ever get a choice thats desided for you if that makes sense...
There will always be a small group who change in anyway or a chaice not of their taste is an issue to them, like colour options, wheels and options the would have liked but the majority will buy this car because of the way Porsche presents it now... they can't and will not pander to every whim and thats the same for all marques.
You only ever get a choice thats desided for you if that makes sense...
I think this has more to do with being the fastest car the GT3 can be. People know the 997 GT3 was crazy fast, but it could have been faster with a dual-clutch, potentially putting up a better fight to the GT-R. It's obvious Porsche want to start pushing the GT-R into a corner.
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a lot of Porsche customers on these forums? The people posting probably amount to 20 or so and as a percentage thats well off the radar of Porsche.
We will see if these forum rants that are trying to change Porsches mind on the PDK only option have any effect. I know where my money is.
Jay
We will see if these forum rants that are trying to change Porsches mind on the PDK only option have any effect. I know where my money is.
Jay
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a lot of Porsche customers on these forums? The people posting probably amount to 20 or so and as a percentage thats well off the radar of Porsche.
We will see if these forum rants that are trying to change Porsches mind on the PDK only option have any effect. I know where my money is.
Jay
We will see if these forum rants that are trying to change Porsches mind on the PDK only option have any effect. I know where my money is.
Jay
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America is the largest market for Porsche... I'm seeing a lot of Porsche customers on these forums who'd rather have a manual gearbox. I do not believe this has to do with the American market, because Europeans are growing increasingly lazy with sports cars, as evidenced by BMW making non-manual M cars for nearly 10 years in Europe (the E60 M5 and E63/64 M6).
I think this has more to do with being the fastest car the GT3 can be. People know the 997 GT3 was crazy fast, but it could have been faster with a dual-clutch, potentially putting up a better fight to the GT-R. It's obvious Porsche want to start pushing the GT-R into a corner.
I think this has more to do with being the fastest car the GT3 can be. People know the 997 GT3 was crazy fast, but it could have been faster with a dual-clutch, potentially putting up a better fight to the GT-R. It's obvious Porsche want to start pushing the GT-R into a corner.
The very few people on a forum will not stray Porsche from doing what they think is best from a financial stand point. I for one am happy about the PDK. But I also agree it would be nice if there was an option. But obviously there is a financial reasoning why P has left that out of the equation.
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sorry fellas, like it or not Porsche is going to do whats best for Porsche as they should. the PDK is superior shifting and faster, nuff said.
I remember the uproar in the '90s, people saying they will not buy another 911 if they go water cooled, hmmm, looks like Porsche made the right but difficult decision at that time as well
I remember the uproar in the '90s, people saying they will not buy another 911 if they go water cooled, hmmm, looks like Porsche made the right but difficult decision at that time as well