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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TYE
Porsche requested the longer extension to respond to the remaining questions to allow for completion of “extensive testing to quantify the problem,”

--Porsche wont even admit there is a problem, i highly doubt they are going to use the extension to test it. More so I see them using the time to find a way to not be responsible for all the issues that have been reported.
I tend to agree with the above posting...it's now a chess game on how to avoid a recall. I guess that's how they've become the most profitable car manufacture in the world. Speaking for myself, it's on the backs of their loyal customers.
 
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I received a response back from the NHTSA that Porsche has asked for an extension to answer all of the questions and it had been granted to July 26th for most of the questions them Sept 12th for the remainder.

So at least Porsche has received the notice and has committed to a response.
 
Old Jul 17, 2013 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jhbrennan
A lot of the reports filed have been "worries", not actual failures. Maybe NHTSA is only counting failures.
Well hopefully we have the same luck as this, Id say the consequences to a coolant pipe failure would be not only a hazard for other vehicles on the road, increasing the risk of a crash, but high potential of the affected car to be in a crash too:

Report Receipt Date: FEB 22, 2013
NHTSA Campaign Number: 13V058000
Component(s): ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
Potential Number of Units Affected: 2,263

SUMMARY:
Porsche is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 911 Carrera and Carrera 4 vehicles manufactured from March 7, 2012, through November 12, 2012, and equipped with a standard (not sport) exhaust system. The exhaust tail pipe may fracture and separate from the rear muffler.

CONSEQUENCE:
If the exhaust tail pipe separates from the muffler it may become a hazard for other vehicles on the road, increasing the risk of a crash.

REMEDY:
Porsche will notify owners, and dealers will replace the rear mufflers free of charge. An interim notice was mailed to owners on May 9, 2013. The manufacturer has not yet provided a notification schedule. Owners may contact Porsche at 1-800-767-7243.

NOTES:
Porsche's safety recall number is AD01. Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov.

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/..._ids=13V058000
 

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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jhbrennan
Was your repair preventative or a result of a failure?
It was a catastrophic failure on the freeway luckily with no traffic behind me. It happened late at night before an early flight so waiting for a tow truck was not fun. Towing $248 and repairs at the dealer was $1350. There is no guarantee on the repair since I gave them the instructions to pin the fitting instead of replacing the entire part with another defective stock Porsche part. I did the cheaper repair because I am hoping Porsche will mitigate the problem with the cooling system overall. If the car breaks again and Porsche has not solved the problem then I will have to pull the motor take all the parts off buy the weldable fittings and have everything welded together ($3000+)

And yes I have filed with the NHTSB but it does not seem to be adding to the total count.
 
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porsche is buying time since it is the cheapest route... they know they cheaped out on the parts. Cup cars have it welded from what i hear. Mass production cars are not since it cuts into their profit. $$$$$ = more $$$$$ shame on you porsche
 
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Anyone heard anything now that the July 26th extension has come and past. Or are we having to wait til Sept 12 before any new news on this.
 
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I think some one posted that PCNA asked and received an extension to evaluate " if " there was an potential concern. All they need to do is, look at the judgement Toyota was handed due to ill fitting floor mats. I sincerely hope PCNA doesn't wait for some one to be injured before they act. ......if welded fittings are good for their race cars, why is it not good enough for the safety of their paying customers that support their bottom line? PCNA????
 
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This is a class action law suit in the making.
 
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I filed my report with the NHTSA

One of my fittings failed and dumped all of my coolant on the track. Fortunately, nobody spun or crashed.

I got a follow up email from the NHTSA asking for more details. They are waiting for Porsche's follow up due 9/12.

I had my shop weld all of the fittings in my car. Crazy expensive.
 
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Welding costs around 2700-3500 depending where you go and which part of the country you are in. Mostly all labor work. Parts are not that much.
 
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Yep. That's a lot of money for something that shouldn't happen.

I had my water pump and thermostat replaced while everything was apart.
Also replaced the two plastic fittings with the aluminum parts from Sharkwerks.
 
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Porsche tax =)... Put the word "porsche" and anyone can charge double
 
Old Aug 25, 2013 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Kormaster
Welding costs around 2700-3500 depending where you go and which part of the country you are in. Mostly all labor work. Parts are not that much.
Did you have this done in la area? Where?
Your estimate is in ballpark of what I have been told.
 
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My shop charges about 3k... Bigger shops charge 4k... It is best to upgrade some parts while engine is out for other preventive fixes. Pm me for detail.
 


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