GT3/GT2 Performance and Track Discussion on the Porsche GT3 and GT2

Anyone have GOOD experiences with CL lug/wheels?!

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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 11:17 AM
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Anyone have GOOD experiences with CL lug/wheels?!

I've read and read and read some more and most people complain about the CL GT3's and go as far as to do the 5 lug conversion.

So is there anyone who hasn't had issues? Anyone that thinks people are paranoid or maybe just think it's a huge PITA and simply don't want the CL?

My CL's are new to me and yes, I am a tad apprehensive about the entire process but it's nothing I want to spend THOUSANDS of dollars on to remove.

Like most forums, you typically only hear about the bad..... rarely the good.
 
Old Sep 23, 2013 | 09:53 PM
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If you educate yourself about the mechanism, the install and removal techniques and wear indications, they are just mildly inconvenient. Would most of us prefer 5 lugs? Yes.
 
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I've switched to 5 lugs.
I had no incident with CL. Done CL removal and yes it is not as easy as 5 lugs but doable.
The problem is that I have no trust to this CL system. Yes, there is only a few incidences of right rear wheel breaking off while tracking. But even one incident is too much to my tolerance.
Also, about this changing of rear hubs and front hubs after certain track miles...the money will eventually add up.
Putting these all together and I conclude that there is no reason for me not to switch.
Only about $3500 in parts and labour. Not bad for ease of use and peace of mind.
 
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I switched to 5 lugs aswell.

Pretty much what Tagra Tim said

Also the 5 lug conversion makes switching wheels really easy and the wheel selection for 5 lugs is much greater than CL.
 

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So if I was to switch, is there a market for my CL wheels, hubs, etc??

That's a hug expense to switch so I'd want the ability to make money off my CL stuff.
 
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Selling your CL wheels shouldnt be a problem. There is a market for hubs and nuts but it is not as easy as compared to selling the CL wheels.

Depending on the condition of the wheels you should be able to get anywhere from $2500 to $3500. For the rest of the stuff you should be able to get around $1000.
 
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Originally Posted by ghst868
Selling your CL wheels shouldnt be a problem. There is a market for hubs and nuts but it is not as easy as compared to selling the CL wheels.

Depending on the condition of the wheels you should be able to get anywhere from $2500 to $3500. For the rest of the stuff you should be able to get around $1000.
That's cool.
 
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I switched over to the 5-lugs too. I kept all of the stock parts and will convert it back to stock when it is time to sell the car.
 
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I've had no issues with my 2010 GT3. Currently it had just logged its first 4000 track miles and the recall AC05 replaced the rear hubs and bearings on Porsche's warranty (no charge). The track miles were all driven at 7/10 at most and the maintenance were all done by myself or the dealer techs under my observation (to the letter of Porsche's technical bulletins). I also love the PCCB's that are on the car and are still on my 4th set of pads. Car has given me 20,000 miles of unadulterated pleasure to drive to and from the tracks without the need for trailers and other associated costs.
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisEVO
If you educate yourself about the mechanism, the install and removal techniques and wear indications, they are just mildly inconvenient. Would most of us prefer 5 lugs? Yes.
^This is correct. Take care of them and they will be ok.
 
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Depends on what you are doing:

Tracking, swapping disc's, pads, wheels, tyres and messing with the suspension on a daily basis, a 5 lug conversion is the way to go.

Road use and car looked after by the dealer (most owners fall into this bracket- forums so a very squinted one sided view in my opinion), stick with CL's

There's obviously a middle ground but unless you fall into the first category there's better stuff to spend your money on.

Also note wheels have been falling off since the wheel was invented, it doesn't matter if they are CL, 3, 4 or 5 bolt configurations and 99% of theses incidents will be down to human error- not tightening, over torquing and incorrect fitment etc. Its easy to blame new technology instead of ones-self for error! A few videos and forums posts doesn't condemn the CL!

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Thanks guys!
 
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i have two RS's
one has CL
one has lugs
follow the bulletin, i think CL is fine
but if you like to take wheels on and off every weekend to wash them, 5lugs is MUCH faster.
 
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mooty do you put your wheels in the bathtub or something?
 
Old Oct 3, 2013 | 08:21 AM
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BTW, is there an issued CL maintenance bulletin for the 991 GT3? I wonder if the procedures have changed with the new CL setup.
 
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