David, I apologize for thinking you are young. However, your post clearly was infantile so I assumed you are young. You claimed those of us who do not fawn over the CGT are bitter and probably couldn't afford to own one. How do you know anything about us other than some of us think the car is dangerous for most drivers? That statement served to reinforce your immaturity.

Regarding the use of the english language, I suggest you reread your post and walk away with your tail between your legs.

Finally, you can drive the CGT as fast as you like on a track but keep your irresponsible driving in this dangerous car off the public roads because you endanger those of us who want to enjoy our cars.

 

hi sorry but don t really remmember about witch of my post you are talking about sorry

 

Hi Guys I am new to this forum and am looking for a heads up on the Carrera GT market. I am in the UK and as Mr RS posted looking at the possability of owning one. I have heard a lot of horror stories about clutches all going in 2,000 miles and wanted to check with actual owners as to their experiance and issues with Carrera GT. Price is also a worry I will have to scrape every penny together to buy one and after loosing bundles of cash on my last few Porsches want to but this one as smart as possible. So far the cars in the States seam to be $400 new $300 - $350 1 year + old? I know of a 18 month old european car that sold for £220 with 2000 miles and at specalist dealers they appear to be £245 - £295 in the UK (lower for a 18 month old car upper for a unused one). Does anyone know what they are going for in Germany/Europe? Any advice or experiances will be keenly read as I try and get up to spead with the market prior to my inevitable investment.

it is this post that you are talking about right GT3RS?
by the way do you own one Rs if yes congrat i really like this car

 

Let me stop everybody who is talking out their ***. I probably have more miles of use than anyone in North America. Paul is right behind because he like me drive his car almost on a daily basis. I agree that it is alot of car that needs to command respect fom its owner. However so does a 430 a gt3 a TT or any other high performance car. True be told the car is totally useable on a daily basis. This car is what you make of it. Drive like an *** get bit in the ***. Drive it with respect have an incredable drive experiance. I think paul would agree a CGT at 75% if faster than most anything coming from Italy. I can speak as I own most cars of interest on the market today and can drive them back to back to back. The CGT is the best car money can buy in the world today for all around balance in handling as well as speed and stopping capability. AWESOME & CAPABLE are the only words to explain the car. Anybody with time car drive the car well just as any other car. The limits are very high even at 7 10th. I think this is just an underestimated car by some that get themselves into trouble. The rest of us love the car and are not worried about depreseation or anything else. I have let several people drive my car with every last one saying it is incredable. It would be sad to see only professional using the car as I must be a professional. I'm sure it going to get interesting now!!!!

 

See, I can't dignify this response with anything other than laughter. Mainly because I like to do my own research, so what I wrote was my own conclusion. It was not something based off of some magazine writer's idea of what could happen, and even then the link you supplied is talking in Euro. Oh, and you forgot the most important part of your link:

Ok, so you're going to tell me that you believe in the one person saying that prices will drop substantially? I'm sorry, I can't take your word on that one. Then again, Spring '06 is only around the corner. I guess I'll just have to continue doing my own research and coming to my own conclusions.

 

Nberry:

It's people like you that make this whole experience bad. I joined this forum to enjoy the greatness of the sport and to have good dialogue with other enthusiast that enjoy the same. I havn't been here long but in the time I have been on the boards I havn't seen you post one positive thing about anything. So why exactly are you here and why are you so obsessed with down talking the CGT? I suppose you are far more qualified to discuss the merits of the car that a storied company like Porsche claims to be its best production car ever. After all we are all used to Porsche making crap right? Why don't you e-mail Porsche and tell them that the almighty opinion of NBerry is that their car is dangerous and should be pulled off the road and given only to professionals. They would obviously agree with you because they value your professional opinion. I mean with all the races you have won and the extensive testing you have done behind the wheel of the car itself. Oh and let's not forget the one guy in Europe that you read about who thinks the car will be worthless by next year. Yeah thats it call Porsche immediately!

I am going to stop posting to you so you can continue your crusade against Porsche and their CGT as for me and alot of my new friends here, we will go back to enjoying our passion for great cars and the sport that we all love. No need for hate!

 

David,

Just ignore Nick. He's like that, does that on all the Porsche boards when a CGT discussion pops up. Makes for heated/good discussion at first, but gets boring after a while. I've met Nick in real life, he's not so bad. I guess we can all run over to the Ferrari boards and deem how the F430 is unsafe, since Ferrari can't seem to make the car comply to 2007 US airbag laws (still a work in progress, I hope Ferrari finds a solution), but how mature would that be.

Cheers,
-Nick

 

David,

I came to the same conclusion as you more than a year ago; before I had even taken delivery of my Carrera GT.

I agree that enjoying our cars and having fun talking about it is reason to come back to these boards. I almost let Nick ruin my perusal of several great Porsche-oriented message boards. But, I didn't!

Once you turn on your mental "NBerry filter", life is more fun!

 

Hey Nick and mike:

Sounds like good sound advice. I would much rather talk about how much I enjoy everything than beat each other up on a board discussion. I would even extend an olive branch to Nick (NBerry). I will be attending several Fashion Island get togethers in the near future and if Nick wants to come down and show me his 430 I'd love to check it out as I really like that car as well. Hope to keep meeting everyone at the get togethers.

 

David ,there you go again. I have stated the CGT is one of the finest performance production cars ever produced. What do you expect me to do get on my knees and lick the tires?

I thought these boards were about discussion and dialogue and not the deification of the CGT or any other Porsche. I am not the one originally posting about all the incidents involving the CGT and its declining value. I only respond with the facts. My issue with the car is Porsche has safety device's it could have equipped the car with which MAY have avoided some of these accidents. Their failure to do so and selling it to the general public was in my view irresponsible. I will continue to speak out. Clearly the public is doing so based on the number available for sale and the declining prices.

Nick, your are nice guy as well and I only remind you that the CGT was sold off early in the US because Porsche refused to comply the with seat belt standard in the US for the coming year.



Mike, your too smart and too successful to let anyone influence how you feel about your car. My comments should not threathen your ownership in any way. Enjoy it as I am sure you will... responsibly.

 

^What in the hell are you talking about? The CGT is not declining in value, like the 959 many years ago it will be the pinnacle for many many years and the price will rise especially when they are no longer made.

As far as safety goes what exactly did Porsche not do correct? They sell a product just like everyone else, yes the car is very powerful, you cannot blame Porsche for someone else losing control of there vehicle, that's assinine.

Also, the seatbelt issue is silly, a seatbelt is not gonna save anyone at 150mph.

People get killed for driving fast or irresponsibly everyday, you cannot sue the maker, people have to be responsible for there own actions.

Get over it already, I doubt very seriously that you will ever own one since it is soooo dangerous and what is the likely hood that you will ever be involved in an accident with one.

Christian

 

ahhhhh, duh.

 

David I agree an olive branch is in order. Thanks for the invite but Fashion Island is a little far for me. I can't put too many miles on my Ferrari.

 

Nick,

I don't think it was a seat belt issue with the CGT. It had to do with the dual stage airbags I believe. However, it's all good. My comment about us raiding the Ferrari boards was all in sarcasm. It was nice seeing your red F430 coupe in SD a while back. Hope you're enjoying the Spyder just as much. Who knows, might need your help in the future in obtaining an F430. hehehehe.

Rgds,
-Nick

 

i don't understand why the money talk is always seems to be the biggest deal here. cars have the price tags, lives don't. all i care is whoever owns the car drives it in best health because life is invaluable. spend time here arguing or trying to change other people's mind is funny. we all believe in different things afterall.