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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 06:18 AM
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Sorry to post again but I seam to be restricted to new posts and attatchments. Is this a standzard thing for new members . Thanks for Matt360cs for his reply it is good to check out the market place. Has anyone else got any feedback on current prices in USA and Europe. I am laso very keen to get some real feedback from owners on experiances with clutches and any other issues worth knowing about.
 
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Sorry to post again but I seam to be restricted to new posts and attatchments. Is this a standzard thing for new members . Thanks for Matt360cs for his reply it is good to check out the market place. Has anyone else got any feedback on current prices in USA and Europe. I am laso very keen to get some real feedback from owners on experiances with clutches and any other issues worth knowing about.
In last month's Evo magazine they had a short article on the depreciation of the CGT in Europe. They claim that those in the know estimate the car will sell for around 150,000 euro by the summer of 2006.I believe that is far too low. In the US, they probably will bottom out around $300,000 before the end of 2006 if not sooner.

The reason given for the huge decline is useability. Given that last weekend three CGT's were totalled the depreciation may accelerate if people continue to crash them and assuming any are left to drive.
 
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It seems to me that some are a little bitter towards the CGT? I'm not sure if it is because they couldn't get one or if it's because they got something else and wished they would have gotten one. In my estimation the CGT is one of the greatest supercars ever. Is it a wild ride that should be handled with extreme care? Yes! You cannot fault Porsche for making a monster of a car that some can't handle. A great driver studys and learns his or her car before attempting to drive the car anywhere near it's limits. Is it the cars fault that it is dangerous in somes hands ie the girl in Europe? No! Even in the hands of perfectly capable drivers there can be mistakes that can kill. That fact is true in every motorsport from boats to cars to bikes etc. So don't hate the car. Imo it is one of the greatest cars ever built. If it depreciated down to $300,000 I would still buy it today, but then I've actually driven and enjoyed the car which would explain my love and passion for it. Just airing my feelings on it.
 
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i bought the CGT to keep not to sell therefore i could careless about its resale value. however, if i want a exotic to drive on weekly bases i'd get a 430 spider not to lose money. at the end if u can have both cars then the owner wins both world.
 
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Originally Posted by GT3RS
I am laso very keen to get some real feedback from owners on experiances with clutches and any other issues worth knowing about.
I love the car. Have had minor but annoying bugs such as a check engine light... and my car did ship with a bad shock... but the clutch is a non-issue. In fact, I had to go a few weeks without driving the car and when I got back in I honestly drove about ten minutes before I even remembered I had ever been worried about it.

The car will endure. It is a pure drive every time.
 
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i bought the CGT to keep not to sell therefore i could careless about its resale value. however, if i want a exotic to drive on weekly bases i'd get a 430 spider not to lose money. at the end if u can have both cars then the owner wins both world.
dont u drive a silver ferrari.. lol bwahahah

evrytime the cgt gets mistaken for a ferrari lol
 
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It seems to me that some are a little bitter towards the CGT? I'm not sure if it is because they couldn't get one or if it's because they got something else and wished they would have gotten one. In my estimation the CGT is one of the greatest supercars ever. Is it a wild ride that should be handled with extreme care? Yes! You cannot fault Porsche for making a monster of a car that some can't handle. A great driver studys and learns his or her car before attempting to drive the car anywhere near it's limits. Is it the cars fault that it is dangerous in somes hands ie the girl in Europe? No! Even in the hands of perfectly capable drivers there can be mistakes that can kill. That fact is true in every motorsport from boats to cars to bikes etc. So don't hate the car. Imo it is one of the greatest cars ever built. If it depreciated down to $300,000 I would still buy it today, but then I've actually driven and enjoyed the car which would explain my love and passion for it. Just airing my feelings on it.

Same thing happened when the GT2 came out, it was too powerful in many owners hands and were totalled. The GT2 and the CGT is not your everyday Porsche it demands respect and control. Albeit I am just a GT2 owner I can imagine how the owners of the CGT feel about the car if thwy were coming from a 996TT or a less powerful machine.
What Arling said goes for me as well, I buy my car to drive not to make good money or break even on resale, car always lose money unless you keep them for 100 years and dont drive them, but then whats the point of having it, take a picture if thats the case.

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It seems to me that some are a little bitter towards the CGT? I'm not sure if it is because they couldn't get one or if it's because they got something else and wished they would have gotten one. .
David you are apparently young and impressionable. Your Uncle Matt understands. Don't make statements about something you know nothing about.

The CGT may be one of the finest performance production cars ever produced but it is for only a very few that have the ability to drive it anywhere near its limits. Many do not buy the CGT not because they cannot have afford or have the resources to buy it but because the car does not suit them. If the truth be told, the CGT does not suit any driver but the true professional.

This car WILL injury future owners and passengers. Now you may want to blame it on the driver but I prefer to find in part fault with the car. Read this thread for some edification.

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The reason given for the huge decline is useability.
Usability?? Is it great on a racetrack? Yes. Can you drive it to and from said racetrack? Yes. Wow, it even has working A/C. Didn't know race cars had that feature! Power windows and locks? Check! Power steering? Indeed. You get the point. That seems pretty useable to me! Does it sound incredible? Well, that's not really a usability factor, but what the hell. YES!

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Given that last weekend three CGT's were totalled the depreciation may accelerate if people continue to crash them and assuming any are left to drive.
Again, I may not be an economics guru, but wouldn't less CGTs increase their value? Maybe not, maybe I'm just confused about that whole supply and demand thingy. Ok, so maybe there are a few at dealers but I bet you with the amount of people like this...

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i bought the CGT to keep not to sell therefore i could careless about its resale value.
...this car will level out in price, if not increase, very soon since they won't be brought here anymore.

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This car WILL injury future owners and passengers.
Wow, cars STILL do that??? C'mon guy, what car won't injure people? Granted this car is prone to biting people who don't respect it, but you know the saying, "if you play with fire...you'll get burned."

Please don't take offense as that is not my intention, just a little curious about some of your comments.
 

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BTW, I'm driving my GT to and from Vegas this weekend (from San Diego) and doing a full track day while I'm there. I can't imagine doing that in ANY other supercar.
 
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David you are apparently young and impressionable. Your Uncle Matt understands. Don't make statements about something you know nothing about.
Don't worry David, the vitriol quoted above merely means you've touched a nerve in the bad-mouthers.

Nick was bad-mouthing the car long before any were ever delivered.
 
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NBerry:

First of all when telling someone to post about something they know nothing about it would be wise to check your facts. I am Matts Uncle not the other way around. I am 38 he is 28 and you know what that shouldn't count for anything! His knowledge on several topics such as cars is far beyond his years and always has been.

I am laughing about your statement that "the CGT may be one of the finest performance production cars ever produced but it is for only a very few that have the ability to drive it anywhere near it's limits".

That my friend is a statement that shows your lack of knowledge regarding this sport. In all motorsports there are cars , bikes, boats, etc. that can push ones abilities to the limit. However blaming accidents on the vehicle is very shallow and narrow minded. If I get in a CGT and drive 180 on the 5 freeway and crash I guess I should sue Porsche for letting me drive a car that goes so fast and obviously is way to dangerous. I mean it couldn't possibly be my fault for driving like an idiot considering my location at the time right?

"This car WILL injury future owners and passengers".

For someone who calls people out you should at least try to get a working idea of the english language when posting.

For your information NBerry Matt and I have talked quite alot about the car (which by the way he actually owns and drives all the time), and we have concluded that there will always be haters out there that are looking to stir the pot. So you may consider getting into knitting or something like it so you wont ever have to worry about crashing in Porsches ultimate production car!
 


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