no, but for Panamera yes.

 

Never...i could care less if the car was that much faster....Give me the third pedal or no sports car.

I understand the allure of this tranny, but for me, if i have a sports car it needs the third pedal.

 

No.

If I were racing for a living, then yes, of course, automanuals are faster on track. But sports cars to me are for entertainment.

I've driven them all, and they all suck on the street IMO. I went 6spd in the 360, and will in all my cars as long as they continue to be available. Automanuals just take too much away from the driving experience.

 

You manual guy's are funny. "I want involvement and be one with the car". What a crock.

You buy sport cars for performance and if the maximum performance can be found with the F1 or PDK that is the way to go. Hurley Haywood and Dave Murry both factory drivers for Porsche are on record that the PDK/F1 is the way to go. Most car manufacturers are slowly phasing our manual transmissions because they are antiques.

I guess you will always have your dinosaurs who will continue to use manual typewriters because they want to be more "involved" with the typing experience. Hilarious!

 

In a track focused car like the GT3, a 6-speed is what it's all about. On a car that sees dual street and track, like an M3, a paddle shift system would be the way I would go.

REMEMBER, WITH TODAYS DRIVE BY WIRE, YOU CANNOT LEFT FOOT BRAKE WITH AN F1 STYLE PADDLE SHIFT SYSTEM AS IT RETARDS THE FUEL IF THE BRAKES ARE DEPRESSED APPX. 50% (same with the 6-speeds we have today).

 

Nick you are needed over on rennteam. So much hate and arrogance, jeebus. Face it, some people like driving manual and do it pretty well. Others are either video game f1 wannabes or have diminishing motors skills. LOL.

Paddle shifters are annoying.

I doubt anybody will debate the technical superiority of automanuals, but that doesn't make them better.

 

Tough question. For me it would depend on how well they pulled it off. I drove an SMG M3 for awhile and ditched it. Great car and definetly quicker than the 6speed but it handcuffed the car and took away some control and a lot of soul.

Having driven the DSG VOlkswagens, I can say on a 997S I would more than likely check that box on the option list, it is very good and I will assume the execution on the Porsche will be as good or better.

On a GT car and my desire for the most visceral driving experience, a manual without a doubt. If I felt competitive or the lowest possible lap time was the primary goal, I'd have to give it very serious consideration.

 

I would have to drive both to compare driving experiences. This being said, I would probably end up with the PDK. I have no problem accepting that a machine and a computer do things better than I, if that is the case. Does not apply to all things in life though

 

Manual for me, but i would love to at least test drive a PDK GT car, not own though!

 

What he said ^^^^^^ !

 

For a GT2/GT3, no. For a Turbo or Clubsport Cayman, yes. If I had my 997S still (with manual), then yes, I would get it on the second P-car.

For a Cayenne, yes, absolutely. I still think the best applications are the Turbo and a Clubsport Cayman (if they ever make one). Imagine the turbo never coming off boost....

PDK/DSG/S-Tronic is an awesome thing. I love it on my A3. The other cars that I think would truly benefit would be the S2000 (never out of VTEC) and the Evo X (again always on boost).

 

You still don't get it...real racing...then yes, the pansy *** auto tranny will be faster. For the purposes of this disucssion, there are no REAL professional race car drivers on this board except for maybe Fabryce. Most of us Porsche owners aren't pansy *** glam ferrari drivers looking for a dull paddle shifter un-involving automotive performance experience. What's even funnier, is that most ferrari owners don't use their car's propery on the track in the first place and remain mired in their wax job poseur mentality. That's what's really funny

 

Rockitman, you should attend a ferrari track day. It's pretty comical.

Within the ferrari world the floppy shifters are present for bragging rights and to make the car accessible to the lawyers and doctors out there who can't be bothered with rowing their own. It's a shame that such fine machines rarely go where the floppy shifters make sense, on the track. Add to that they can be a maintenance nightmare and reversing tears up the clutch, and it's not a compelling option.

Check out clarkson's review of the 996 RS v. the Stradale. Loved the stradale and hated the floppy shifters. My feeling exactly after driving an F1 360, and the reason I didn't buy a stradale since you cannot get a manual on that car.

 

DSG (and one would assume PDK) is infinitely superior to Ferrari F1/BMW SMG/whatever.

And, BTW, for all of Clarkson's on-air BS, I read on Lambo Power that he ordered his Gallardo Spyder with eGear.

 

Infinitely superior? I definitely don't agree. I drove the DSG box in the A3. Good, but not terribly better than the current F1 tranny.

One other thing about F1/DSG/SMG trannies. Seems manufacturers are designing their cars based on automanuals. Case in point, the M5, which sucks as a manual car. It may be that that we are forced into automanuals as the next generation cars just don't drive well with a stick.