It's tough when Ferrari release a new car at the same time as the GT2.....I'm talking about the 430 Scuderia.

 

I know this is a porsche forum and I love pcars and have two out in the garage right now, but the 430 scuderia would be my choice assuming you can get either at msrp. If not, go with the 2 at least until the insanity stops(see ya in 3 years!)

 

The scuderia will weigh 1250kg. That's about 150 less than the GT2 and will have 512 NA hp... Performance wise I believe it will be superiors. Talking about looks or sound... I don't think we need to

 

Hands down the GT2. They are not in the same league.

 

The 1250kg is on par with the GT2's dry weight. But the Ferrari's dry is typical Ferrari style, hardly believeable. On page 3 of that pdf it states that the curb weight is 1350kg and that is for the Lightest European version - whatevr that means. Knowing the Italians that could mean weight with 1/4 fuel, no passenger seat etc etc.

Further even curb weight is so vague. The only definitve weight would be a Curb weight with a DIN identifier, other wise people can say whatever they want for curb weight without justification.

Bottomline, I dont think the 430 Scud will be much faster than the 997 Turbo, let alone the GT2.
Ferrari spec sheets are more opinion sheets than fact sheets anyways.

 

+1,000,000

 

The US spec Ferraris come with a fair amount of additional bumper supports to meet crash regulations that do not exist in Italy/Europe
Much like the 360 Stradale, which weighed considerably more than advertised and approached the weight of a standard 360, the Scuderia will likely do the same. The 599 also suffers from this and is proof that it is still their practice to misquote these figures on their US website and press releases.
The 512 hp figure is likely more of an aspiriation than anything else. The Stradale was suppose to make more than 400 hp, but the members of Ferrari Chat that own them were finding them to dyno to what calculated to 370-380 crank hp. There is a reason why Ferrari dyno figures are very guarded.
Expect the new GT2, like every other GT car before it, to make 5-10% more power than what is quoted. Any engine placed into a Porsche that does not make 105% of its stated output is destroyed.

The Scuderia is a very nice looking car, the question of which to pick is where your priorities lie in terms of performance versus appearance.

 

+2000000000000

plus, that 430 CS is fugly as hell. GT2 looks better, hands down.

 

they also said the the 360 CS was supposed to be a GT3 killer when it came out...the 996 GT3 had less hp, less tq, and i think weighed about the same...and it crushed the 360 CS in every way! so dont believe the ferrari hype...

 

GT2 microsite sais the GT2 in basic configuration will weigh 1440 without driver and 1510 DIN which is with driver and 7kg of luggage...

 

well, i would love to have both.

 

Well the total weight they are adding is 165 lbs if your add the driver at 68 kg (149.6 lbs) and 7kg at (15.4 lbs). So 1510 kg including 165 lb driver is 3322 lbs. So add 40 lbs for me. Not sure if that is dry weight, if so add 8 lbs per gallon of fuel.

 

Not tough at all. Ferrari is Ferrari and Porsche is Porsche. Different cars for different people. I drive my cars so prefer a GT2.

 

is that in price for the Fcar ? or just in agreement with the post

 

I would too, only because i'm kind of sick of turbo cars and want to hop back into a powerful NA! 360 challenge stradale is still the sexiest car ever IMO, wish the F430 looked half as good