i'm new here. plan to lease a GT3.
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Amir!!
great to hear from you!!! can't wait to see your CS maintainance bills. how much are the brake pads again??? $3K each?
enjoy it; sounds like a great car... and still waiting for the high mile pounder of a 360 to assure me .... you cream puff drivers you!!!! i just remember driving my 360 spider and knowing it would break, had a fragile feeling... but you guys did alot more miles.
do you still have your gt2???
Jack,
what seat is that in the 360? i had large racing in mine, but i dont remember the carbon?
great to hear from you!!! can't wait to see your CS maintainance bills. how much are the brake pads again??? $3K each?
enjoy it; sounds like a great car... and still waiting for the high mile pounder of a 360 to assure me .... you cream puff drivers you!!!! i just remember driving my 360 spider and knowing it would break, had a fragile feeling... but you guys did alot more miles.
do you still have your gt2???
Jack,
what seat is that in the 360? i had large racing in mine, but i dont remember the carbon?
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Watt,
Yes I still have my GT2 and loving it more with every additional mile that goes by. But getting back to the Ferrari maintenance issue, I had 8500 miles on my first 360 Modena with absolutely no problems. On the other hand, Porsche had to buy back my 996TT after 11,000 miles because of engine oil leaks and soft brakes which they never could fix. So go figure.
I think Ferrari's reputation for high maintenance and unreliabilty is a cause of their pre 550 Maranello cars. Why else would they be confident enough to extend their warranty to 3 years.
Just look at this year's F1 results. I don't see Ferrari having massive engine failures ala Mclaren-Mercedes. Even you have to give them some credit for building cars that can keep winning at the highest level of motorsports year after year.
Hope to see you soon.
Amir
Yes I still have my GT2 and loving it more with every additional mile that goes by. But getting back to the Ferrari maintenance issue, I had 8500 miles on my first 360 Modena with absolutely no problems. On the other hand, Porsche had to buy back my 996TT after 11,000 miles because of engine oil leaks and soft brakes which they never could fix. So go figure.
I think Ferrari's reputation for high maintenance and unreliabilty is a cause of their pre 550 Maranello cars. Why else would they be confident enough to extend their warranty to 3 years.
Just look at this year's F1 results. I don't see Ferrari having massive engine failures ala Mclaren-Mercedes. Even you have to give them some credit for building cars that can keep winning at the highest level of motorsports year after year.
Hope to see you soon.
Amir
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Watt, this will make you smile.......
I lifted it in from the 'other' board, it was posted by a gentleman in Singapore.
Best way to fall in love (again) with your GT3!!!!
I discovered the best way to rekindle the childhood feelings of love we all rediscovered the first day we picked up our GT3's ........
Go out and buy a 360 Modena then track it!
1st bad - couldn't find semi slicks that fit the stock wheels so I had to settle for Mk1 GT3 sizing with MPSCs. Different rolling radius caused the ASR to go wonky so traction control was rendered useless - even for street use.
2nd bad - 5 laps into my first track session with the 360 and I was being towed out of the gravel after having cooked the brakes. Undercarriage and side skirts now need cosmetic repair - proved the theory that you can't expect to stay on track while trying to negotiate a 90 deg right hander at 200km/h. Changed fluid and bled the brakes before the track day - the only warning I got was a bit more pedal play the previous corner before failling outright at the next turn.
3rd bad - the fact that I could equal my Mk1 lap times and come within 3 secs of my Mk2 timing couldn't overcome the frustration of being only able to do 2 hot laps back-to-back before the brakes decided to fade again.
4th bad - on the way out of the track my alternator decided to fail and shut down the entire electrical system. Result - a cross border 350km tow.
5th bad - I was part of a group of 3 360s and numerous Porsches. 2 out of 3 Ferraris ended the journey on a flat bed trailer. You can imagine the pleasure the Porsche owners derived from this sight.
Consolation - got home and re-acquainted myself with the GT3.
Best way to fall in love (again) with your GT3!!!!
I discovered the best way to rekindle the childhood feelings of love we all rediscovered the first day we picked up our GT3's ........
Go out and buy a 360 Modena then track it!
1st bad - couldn't find semi slicks that fit the stock wheels so I had to settle for Mk1 GT3 sizing with MPSCs. Different rolling radius caused the ASR to go wonky so traction control was rendered useless - even for street use.
2nd bad - 5 laps into my first track session with the 360 and I was being towed out of the gravel after having cooked the brakes. Undercarriage and side skirts now need cosmetic repair - proved the theory that you can't expect to stay on track while trying to negotiate a 90 deg right hander at 200km/h. Changed fluid and bled the brakes before the track day - the only warning I got was a bit more pedal play the previous corner before failling outright at the next turn.
3rd bad - the fact that I could equal my Mk1 lap times and come within 3 secs of my Mk2 timing couldn't overcome the frustration of being only able to do 2 hot laps back-to-back before the brakes decided to fade again.
4th bad - on the way out of the track my alternator decided to fail and shut down the entire electrical system. Result - a cross border 350km tow.
5th bad - I was part of a group of 3 360s and numerous Porsches. 2 out of 3 Ferraris ended the journey on a flat bed trailer. You can imagine the pleasure the Porsche owners derived from this sight.
Consolation - got home and re-acquainted myself with the GT3.
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Andrew--
as expected when a ferrari is actually pounded upon, something Dear Jack, Lord of the Blings, would never ever do!!!!
i do however agree with Amir, that when ferrari spend $500,000,000 per year they can make a reliable F1 car.
as expected when a ferrari is actually pounded upon, something Dear Jack, Lord of the Blings, would never ever do!!!!
i do however agree with Amir, that when ferrari spend $500,000,000 per year they can make a reliable F1 car.
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Just FYI,
I inquired with my local Porsche dealer and Porsche Financial services about leasing an 04 gt3. The numbers weren't too promising.
I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was something like $2k a month, for 36 months. The problem the dealer said is that the residuals are on par with Carrera residuals for the GT3 b/c the banks don't have a good resale pattern from them. Gt3 will probably follow a 996 turbo or slightly better depreciation curve. This made the Gt3 lease not a good idea, your better off buying it, or financing it.
I inquired with my local Porsche dealer and Porsche Financial services about leasing an 04 gt3. The numbers weren't too promising.
I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was something like $2k a month, for 36 months. The problem the dealer said is that the residuals are on par with Carrera residuals for the GT3 b/c the banks don't have a good resale pattern from them. Gt3 will probably follow a 996 turbo or slightly better depreciation curve. This made the Gt3 lease not a good idea, your better off buying it, or financing it.
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