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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by v10lambo
HA! Dream on poser.....
how old are you?
funny how people say that a supercar should make you 10 years old behind the wheel, guess you revert back to being 60?
 
Old Oct 13, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by v10lambo
HA! Dream on poser.....
Poser, you don't know me. You're the one trying to rub your worthless 2004 Gallardo in everyones faces here. Guess what Mr.Airline professional, there are people here in this thread, possibly in the post below yours that could buy you and sell you 3x over and think nothing of it. Some of us wear watches worth more then your car... Like I said, go back to impressing your friends at Lambpower, nobody gives a s.h.i.t about your 4 year Gallardo, or your senseless and baseless opinions.

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this is a funny thread, cool
 
Old Oct 13, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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LOL - this stuff always happens when a thread compares cars.

Also, since when does your online signature or avatar have anything to do with your wealth or maturity?

Less is more IMHO.
 
Old Oct 13, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.PS
That shows nothing except that you're ignorant. It sad that Lambo owners do not understand, or do not want to understand the fact that nobody is saying Lamborghini interiors or Audi parts are CHEAP. The point is it is unacceptable that the Gallardo's interior is largely put together from left over Audi parts that are present in Audi's lowest tier budget models like the A3 and A4.

This has been something Die Hard Lambo fans (including myself) have been upset about since the debut of the Gallardo in 2003. Rumors have been circulating since mid 2006 that Lamborghini is attempting to completely cease the use of recycled Audi parts in their vehicles. That has yet to happen, but we can only hope. The new sedan doesn't seem to share any bits - which is a step forward in my opinion.

As for quality and craftsmanship. I think Ferrari is above and beyond, especially in the F430 compared to the Gallardo. The leather work on the F430 is much better - there is much more detail. From the rear shelf to the headliner, it's incredible. The switches and gauges are not shared by any other car manufacture, except Alfa which only shares a few switches (the difference here is that the lesser cars are getting parts from the better cars, not vice versa - not to mention the Alfa is no A3 or A4).

I'm a big fan of both cars. Both brands have their problems. There have been many early problems in the F430 and Gallardo. Many 2004 Gallardo's had e-gear problems. A few earlier F430 had door handle issues, etc. Point is both vehicals are the pinnacle of automotive performance and beauty. The only downside is the el-cheapo interior collage that Lamborghini has chosen to fit into it's base model the Gallardo - hopefully that will change soon. The LP560 is really an upgrade in comparison to the 2004 model Gallardo's. The leather work, seats, and options are much better - not to mention quality has increased tremendously! Look at both interiors side by side and you will clearly see the difference in quality, not to mention options.

The only parts in the Gallardo that is shared with another Audi is only the a/c controls and nav unit (but sharing nav units is normal for any car). Thats about it. I don't think its a big deal because they work and look good. Everything else is exclusive, the dash, gauges, steering wheel, seats, shifter, shifter gate, door panels, floor mats, door handles, storage compartments, windshield, e-brake etc. So I'm not quite sure whats the big deal in saying they use so much leftover parts when its really only like two items???????

What do you mean largely put together with Audi parts???? I have owned two Gallardos please tell me because I haven't seen them.
 

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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SRatha
Too many variants, Launch years, to SE, Nera, Spyder, SL, now the Lp560, did I miss anything?
If you say that then Porsche made way too many 911 Variants. Don't get offended, I'm just making a point here that there are other manufacturers that make many variants of the same car. Even more so than the Lambos.

Lets see how many 911 variants there are:

1. 911 Carrera Cab
2. 911 Carrera Cab S
3. 911 Carrera
4. 911 Carrera S
5. 911 Carrera 4
6. 911 Carrera 4S
7. 911 Carrera 4 Cab
8. 911 Carrera 4S Cab
9. 911 Carrera Targa 4
10. 911 carrera Targa 4S
11. 911 Turbo
12. 911 Turbo S
13. 911 GT3
14. 911 GT2

also Porsche did the 997.5 if you are talking about extra launch years.

am I missing any? I don't think it matters how many variants they make.

Even Mercedes has many CLKs.

1. CLK Cab 300
2. CLK Cab 350
3. CLK 300
4. CLK 350
5. CLK 55
6. CLK 55 Cab
7. CLK 63
8. CLK 63 Cab
9. CLK 63 Black

etc...
 
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Originally Posted by evsmotors
The only parts in the Gallardo that is shared with another Audi is only the a/c controls and nav unit (but sharing nav units is normal for any car). Thats about it. I don't think its a big deal because they work and look good. Everything else is exclusive, the dash, gauges, steering wheel, seats, shifter, shifter gate, door panels, floor mats, door handles, storage compartments, windshield, e-brake etc. So I'm not quite sure whats the big deal in saying they use so much leftover parts when its really only like two items???????

What do you mean largely put together with Audi parts???? I have owned two Gallardos please tell me because I haven't seen them.
The gauge cluster, steering wheel, climate control, and head unit are Audi. Those are pretty much the main components of the interior out side of the seats, carpets, and general layout which are obviously exclusive. A few buttons wouldn't be a problem, but 50% of the interior borrowed from an A4 isn't desirable for $250k.

The interior isn't that bad, but it would be nice if it were an all exclusive interior to Lamborghini and the Gallardo right down to the switches.
 

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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.PS
The gauge cluster, steering wheel, climate control, and head unit are Audi. Those are pretty much the main components of the interior out side of the seats, carpets, and general layout which are obviously exclusive. A few buttons wouldn't be a problem, but 50% of the interior borrowed from an A4 isn't desirable for $250k.

The interior isn't that bad, but it would be nice if it were an all exclusive interior to Lamborghini and the Gallardo right down to the switches.
Help me out here. I fail to see that 50% of the interior is shared with another Audi. In 2004 which Audi uses that steering wheel? The gauge cluster housing is not shared with any Audi. The gauge face design is Lamborghini specific. All the function switches are exclusive, is there an Audi that shares the same (light, window, emergency, gas lid, door lock switches with the Gallardo? I agree the climate control and headunit but that hardly accounts for 50% of the interior. If that is the case than a Corvette interior shares 50% of its interior to a Malibu or a Avalance since they share the same steering wheel and nav system. Anyways my point is that 1-2 things can't account for 50% of a interior and it isn't a big deal.

Which Audi shares the same steering wheel as a 2004 Gallardo that was in production during that year?

 
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Originally Posted by evsmotors
Help me out here. I fail to see that 50% of the interior is shared with another Audi. In 2004 which Audi uses that steering wheel? The gauge cluster housing is not shared with any Audi. The gauge face design is Lamborghini specific. All the function switches are exclusive, is there an Audi that shares the same (light, window, emergency, gas lid, door lock switches with the Gallardo? I agree the climate control and headunit but that hardly accounts for 50% of the interior. If that is the case than a Corvette interior shares 50% of its interior to a Malibu or a Avalance since they share the same steering wheel and nav system. Anyways my point is that 1-2 things can't account for 50% of a interior and it isn't a big deal.

Which Audi shares the same steering wheel as a 2004 Gallardo that was in production during that year?

The steering wheel is used in the RS4 (EU version only). The instrument cluster has a different background, but it's directly out of the A8. If you look at the center console you feel like you're in an Audi. That's all that bothers me really. I think the Murci interior while a bit dated still looks perfect and is still very much reminiscent of the Diablo 6.0 interior which was phenomenal.

Again, I'm not bashing the Gallardo - it's a good car, but the interior is a turn off. At least to me personally, maybe not to others, and most definitely not owners - since they obviously bought the car.
 
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by evsmotors
Help me out here. I fail to see that 50% of the interior is shared with another Audi. In 2004 which Audi uses that steering wheel? The gauge cluster housing is not shared with any Audi. The gauge face design is Lamborghini specific. All the function switches are exclusive, is there an Audi that shares the same (light, window, emergency, gas lid, door lock switches with the Gallardo? I agree the climate control and headunit but that hardly accounts for 50% of the interior. If that is the case than a Corvette interior shares 50% of its interior to a Malibu or a Avalance since they share the same steering wheel and nav system. Anyways my point is that 1-2 things can't account for 50% of a interior and it isn't a big deal.

Which Audi shares the same steering wheel as a 2004 Gallardo that was in production during that year?

It's quite interesting how you fail to see how that is an audi interior... to me i don't see how it is not - Take the lambo badge off and you have an A4 interior from the little screen in the middle of the tach and speedo to the navi screen to the a/c screen, buttons and switches, even the texture on the materials in the car and EXACTLY the same... It's not to say the interior is bad or the materials are of poor quality becuase that is obviously not the case, but as stated for a car costing what it is, it is unacceptable, it's like lambo/audi wanted to get the car out so quick, the forgot to put any effort in the interior... none whatsoever
 
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i dont know too much exaclty the diferent btween the Audi interior and the Gallardo interior, i went to the Lambo Dealer to get a Test drive from the the New Gallardo lp540, and i was thinking in get the car cuz the look so good, and i drive a lot betrer than tha old gallardo, but the only 2 thing that i never like from that car was the interior, cuz is a expensive car with a a Audi interior, c'mon, and the pour power and torque even with 540hp, so i went to drive the F430 omg, that a very diferent thing, the only problem with F430 was the prices, there a still too high, but i get it one roso corsa 2007 with 2123 in the odom, i dont hate the Lambos, but i think that Ferraris ofer you more fun cars to drive to the Lambo..more power and better handling.
 
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Agreed!

Originally Posted by brnsrgn
its' called supply and demand model.
Yep. Since you have soon many people in the market willing to 'unload' their Gallardos to get into an LP, the market is being overfilled. Ferrari owners seem to either 'stay put' or add to the collection vs. trade up.
 
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Joined just to chime in. I am a trucker, that means that I don't own either a Ferrari nor a Lambo. For the last few years, I've been assigned to the auctions. I have never seeing so many of these cars at auctions, mostly bank owned and in perfect condition. Obviously, this will bring their prices down but by how much? What do you guys think that the availability of these cars at auction is going to do to the prices? BTW, same with the German cars.

Also, I've sat and driven (very short distances) in tens of ferraris and lambos, I'll go with the ferrari interiors, they are much nicer...but what do I know.
 

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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 04:13 AM
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If you say that then Porsche made way too many 911 Variants. Don't get offended, I'm just making a point here that there are other manufacturers that make many variants of the same car. Even more so than the Lambos.

Lets see how many 911 variants there are:

1. 911 Carrera Cab
2. 911 Carrera Cab S
3. 911 Carrera
4. 911 Carrera S
5. 911 Carrera 4
6. 911 Carrera 4S
7. 911 Carrera 4 Cab
8. 911 Carrera 4S Cab
9. 911 Carrera Targa 4
10. 911 carrera Targa 4S
11. 911 Turbo
12. 911 Turbo S
13. 911 GT3
14. 911 GT2

also Porsche did the 997.5 if you are talking about extra launch years.

am I missing any? I don't think it matters how many variants they make.

Even Mercedes has many CLKs.

1. CLK Cab 300
2. CLK Cab 350
3. CLK 300
4. CLK 350
5. CLK 55
6. CLK 55 Cab
7. CLK 63
8. CLK 63 Cab
9. CLK 63 Black

etc...
The 911 badge has been around for years man! Gallardo was intro'd in 2004, why? to save Lambo's butts! 911s have the same shape, and thats just the way they are, its a tradition thing.

As for the topic, we are comparing Lambos and Ferrari's is it not?
 
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The 911 badge has been around for years man! Gallardo was intro'd in 2004, why? to save Lambo's butts! 911s have the same shape, and thats just the way they are, its a tradition thing.

As for the topic, we are comparing Lambos and Ferrari's is it not?
We are talking about Lambo values, read the topic. I don't see it say Lambo Vs. Ferraris. You brought up something that didn't make any sense I'm just pointing it out.
 


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