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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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Look at the 1:12 mark in the video...while the chute was pulled prior the brakes coming on, the brake lights came on before the chute was fully deployed.
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Originally Posted by NitrousX
Chute was out clearly everyone that was there saw that.

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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by houstonT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS1NU...layer_embedded

Look at the 1:12 mark in the video...while the chute was pulled prior the brakes coming on, the brake lights came on before the chute was fully deployed.
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My remark was more inline with the chute being stuck under the wheel theory so many have come to tell.

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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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Not to battle wits with you. I took your suggestion and view the video again.







Brake lights are clearly visible at this screen capture.








I believe he hit the brakes at the same exact moment the chute was fully active maybe a split second before fully active.


To tell you the truth I have no idea why this is up for debate. The only wrong answer is chute got caught under the tire.
 

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No need to internet argue but you are missing the frame b/w the 3rd and 4th. Even Gary Javo who posted the video confirmed via his video capture software that the brakes lit prior the chute being fully deployed. Just using simple youtube you can freeze the frame with the brake lights on and the chute NOT fully deployed. If I wasn't so computer illiterate I would post the frame here but I'm not sure how to save a picture of the frame I want...
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by houstonT
No need to internet argue..
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My thoughts as well.

Alright I gotta run. I have a meeting with a Cardiologist regarding a PET he wants.

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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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With the progressively advancing technology, engine builds and massive hp of the vehicles the speeds achieved there may not be adequate safe run-off.
Don't know maybe I'm wrong. Those that have achieved such speeds could comment?

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A Lambo "can" stop w/o a chute there, but having more run-off would set a LOT of people a little more at ease. I had 3 runs last year over 230mph and 1 at over 241mph, and relied solely on the stock brakes, which got it done. UR does have a rotor upgrade which I didn't have at the time too. No other cars that I've seen run at Texas could stop at those speeds w/o a chute though, other than the Ford GT. Having more room would be EXTREMELY nice and probably would have kept 2 cars from the damage they incurred this time around.

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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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Just saw the video from the link "tommygun" provided, WOW!
 
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The boost logic Supra ran off the end after running 238 on friday.

I wasn't running, just there to help set up a bike and due some tuning on it.

My guy riding said that the last part of the track gets pretty rough after the turnoff, which I believe is the area of concern. I believe if this area was better it would settle some folks as well.

Another thing I noticed was the patch in the runway at the 1/4 mile mark. I saw several bikes and cars have issues w/ it. I saw one viper's nose lift due to it and one of the turbo busa's wheel stand due to it.

Anyone driving care to elaborate?
 
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Originally Posted by houstonT
Some of the posts going around the forums are ridiculous...like the whole "chute got stuck under a wheel story..."

I was there, near the 3/4 mile marker...saw the wreck happen right before my eyes...and happened to see slow motion video on a computer monitor (afterwards) and let me assure you, the chute did NOT get stuck under anything. From my point of view, the events unfolded as such:

1. Car hits 237.xx
2. Brake lights come on (foot on brake = light rear end as the weight moves to the front)
3. As the brake lights come on, the chute is deployed (brakes already on, chute naturally transfers weight to the front and should be pulled under WOT only releasing the throttle once it's fully deployed)
4. Cross wind takes the chute off the to side a little bit, coupled with the light rear end, the back end comes out to the left (direction of the crosswind)
5. Car goes off track, is still on 4 wheels
6. Dirt/grass burm gets in the way, car hits burm, tumbles begin...

THANK GOD UGR did such a great job with the cage and other safety equipment (cage, seats, harness, fire suppression, etc...)

Peter
Very accurate account of the events. It was the most horrific wreck I have witnessed and I believe the cage saved Richards life. I will not enter the debate on human error or the setup of the chute.
 
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Originally Posted by BGolden
The boost logic Supra ran off the end after running 238 on friday.

I wasn't running, just there to help set up a bike and due some tuning on it.

My guy riding said that the last part of the track gets pretty rough after the turnoff, which I believe is the area of concern. I believe if this area was better it would settle some folks as well.

Another thing I noticed was the patch in the runway at the 1/4 mile mark. I saw several bikes and cars have issues w/ it. I saw one viper's nose lift due to it and one of the turbo busa's wheel stand due to it.

Anyone driving care to elaborate?
This is what I was stating earlier. There hasn't been any changes to the end in the last few years of my running it.
 
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Im glad to see that the driver survived this epic accident. God was truly looking over him that day. Also Kudos to UR making the car as safe to protect from that type of accident.

However, several others have addressed the likeliness of driver error and such. Im curious what kind of training UR gives their customers before letting them get behind the wheel of such crazy HP cars.

Case in point, this is the same driver in the same car, just a few months ago at the last Texas mile. One can only assume he didn't recieve a great deal more practice between these events.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afh9g...eature=related
 

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Well thank God he is ok. All I can say for sure is it is a very delicate situation switching from WOT to stopping at those speeds. The transition must be handled delicately. I pucker everytime from 150 plus at the 1/4 to stop. I cant imagine 230 ish and then making the transition. And yes, the chute must also be dealt with properly.
 
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The actual issue is not with the fact that the driver lost it and went off the track. Going off the track at the end is to be expected in a high speed run. Sooner or later it's going to happen. You could blow a tire or throw a rod... Many things could happen to cause the car to go off the track. There is an inherent risk when you ask someone to put 2kHP in your car so you can see how fast it will go in a mile.

The safety issue is with the track. The event sponsors should have inspected the run off areas and removed any obstacles like a BERM!


Underground did an incredible job of fitting the latest and best safety systems into the car. The cage was built by a nascar team. It had fire suppression, high end racing seats with 5 point harness. That's why the driver is not only alive but basically unscathed. The parachute was mounted on a slight angle.. Just as is should be done.
 

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hitting the brakes before the chute was blossomed. mistake 1

the length of the cable for the chute was too short. mistake 2

LSR cars use longer cables and smaller chutes so it does not unsettle a car doing 200+ mph.

Its a old airpot, they dont have a lawn crew lol they make sure the surface the cars are on is safe, if you go off into the fields then it sucks to be you. Try going off course on the salt, its pretty damn scary what you will see and find as in the way of bumps, clumps, cracks, holes, ect... the same can be said for any of the standing mile venues. Look at Sandhill Nebraska lol you have telephone poles and ditches, fields with cows, you name it. The guys running 200mph need to have a license to do so, that training needed to get that license will help with some of the issues that occurred and hopefully will prevent more deaths. Run at Maxton, they follow the ECTA rules and these cars would not be legal to go over 150 there in most cases, the UGR lambo may have had the cage, chute, fire suppression system, ect... look at the jackass passes from earlier this year with the car spinning out at the end, you would get booted from any other event. I hope this opens the eyes to a lot of mile racers and hopefully we can have some safer events in the coming years.
 


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