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10-12-2011, 09:41 AM

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The Hockenheim results are fairly interesting:
MP4-12C :- 1:08.7 (1 lap, Corsas)
458 :- 1:10.5 (supertest)

Anglesey National
MP4-12C :- 59.3 (damp, PZeros)
458 :- 59.2 (damp, MPSSs)

Both these tests were conducted following the pre-production amendments after the relatively poor Bedford and Rockingham tests, although the Anglesey car was the black one, so I'm not sure if that got the updates. The orange Hockenheim/Top Gear car definitely has.

Some of the rumoured manufacturer laps are pretty damn interesting too, so good that without proof nobody would believe them.

Thanks! And that is closer to what I was expecting.

I don't really compare these cars for performance, as I see them as one in the same (similar performance, different methods). Obviously these cars are at a level that, if you're not a trained professional, the results can vary GREATLY.

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10-20-2011, 07:48 AM

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Sport Auto Supertest:

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10-21-2011, 09:23 AM

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Nordschleife (20.6km) >> 7:28

0-300kph >> 31.0s

7.24 min – Porsche 911 GT2 RS (997 mk2) – 620 hp, 1405 kg (w/o rollcage), semi-slicks
7.24 min – Gumpert Apollo Sport – 700 hp, 1458 kg, semi-slicks
7.28 min - McLaren MP4-12C - 600 hp, 1473 kg, semi-slicks
7.30 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 - 500 hp, est. 1400 kg, semi-slicks
7.32 min – Porsche Carrera GT – 612 hp, 1473 kg

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10-21-2011, 01:13 PM

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i want to see someone tune one of these... being turbo, you know a decat and tune will net some huge increases.

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10-24-2011, 10:49 PM

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I can't imagine anyone wanting to tune a 12C.

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10-25-2011, 03:43 AM

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If you can post a 7:28 on the NBR in 1 hotlap with a driver who's largely unfamilar with the car with some damp patches, why would you want to tune it?

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10-25-2011, 08:32 AM

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If you can post a 7:28 on the NBR in 1 hotlap with a driver who's largely unfamilar with the car with some damp patches, why would you want to tune it?

Because, let's face it - for those are concerned with power - all they will do with this car is do roll-on races, on a crowded highways...

Once they get this track monster, it will get shipped to a tuner, who will replace the turbos, up the boost (including some other standard stuff), and it will be run in a straight line for a few seconds at a time.

When he loses to a Gallardo or GT-R, he will go home and cry, complaining that the car sucks.

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10-25-2011, 09:01 AM

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Vairano :
Aventador : 1:13,860
MP4-12C : 1:14,815
599 GTO : 1,16,087
911 GT3 RS 4.0 : 1:16,389

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10-25-2011, 10:10 AM

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You know? I have a different view when looking at all of those cars...

Each of those cars has a unique goal (for me).

If I want a heavenly sounding engine, with beautiful lines, conservative road going manners - I'd purchase the 599 GTB/GTO (probably GTB and save the money).

If I want a car that SCREAMS for attention like a young girl thinking she is important (Lindsay Lohan comes to mind), with amazing performance - I'd buy the Aventador. (I do think this the meanest looking of the bunch, though)

If I want the latest technology and awesome turbo-charged performance, I'd pick the McLaren.

If I wanted a car that actually works, and does all of the things the other cars promise, reliably, I'd choose the Porsche 4.0.

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10-25-2011, 10:50 AM

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What amuses me greatly is that this is probably the best review the McLaren has had and it's from an Italian magazine.

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10-28-2011, 01:13 PM

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just saw macca in person and not impressed with its looks. was a bare chassis next to it and with the carbon and aluminum it looked better than the finished one!

im sure it drives amazingly but i would want a n/a motor in this type car. i love my gtr for the power but still miss the feel and sound of my old gt3 engine. i would want both for 1/4 million dollars. italia remains top car.

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11-04-2011, 10:13 AM

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1st place: Ferrari 458 Italia

It was a tough battle, but the Italia won, because it's "more mature" and it's faster at the limit.

Tyres: Michelin Pilot Super Sport
Weight: 1546 kg
Vmax.: 326 km/h
0-100 km/h in 3,5 s
0-200 km/h in 10,4 s
0-260 km/h in 19,2 s
Quarter mile in 11,3 s
Flexibility (80-120 km/h) in 5th/6th gear: 3,3 s/4,6 s
18 m slalom: 68,4 km/h
110 m ISO evasive test: 155,3 km/h
Braking (100-0 km/h) cold/warm: 33,8 m/33,0 m
Hockenheimring: 1.09,7 min

2nd place: McLaren MP4-12CIt's faster than the 458, but it's also more expensive, it has some quality-issues and it might be a bit more sportier in terms of design and sound.