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Chris, you cannot "overwind" a Rolex.
 
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You tried it on and did not leave the store with it on your wrist ?
How much was it ?
Yes too much in Rose somewhere around 35k or so...I had one in Switzerland at a dealer friend but passed on it, that kind of $ for a watch at this moment is not in the cards...other priorities..
 
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thanks for the thread hi-jack.
Sorry however it was a clean hi-jack...whats up on the wheel front ?
 
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Stryke, you beat me to it. Overwind an automatic watch? There is a slipping clutch that prevents just that.

BTW, I have a Patek winding box, made by Scatola del Tempo, that lists (old price?) for $2400, I'll sell it for $1,000. Never used.
 
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while an automatic watch has an overwind protection mechanism to avoid damage to the movement, if the overwind mechanism is constantly used for hours at a time (i.e. though constant turning, rather than the unpredictable movement of the human wrist), the lubrication of the mechanism is worn out faster.

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Which is why good winders don't constantly rotate, they just do enough to keep the watch running.
 
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They turn on and off as well wind in either direction or both depending on what the type of watch requires, the Scatolo units are the best.
 
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Originally posted by damian in nj
Which is why good winders don't constantly rotate, they just do enough to keep the watch running.
exactly, but in your previous post you stated that it was impossible to overwind a watch.
 
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Originally posted by SteveH
exactly, but in your previous post you stated that it was impossible to overwind a watch.
It is!
 
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Originally posted by Stryke
It is!
no it's not

Originally posted by SteveH
while an automatic watch has an overwind protection mechanism to avoid damage to the movement, if the overwind mechanism is constantly used for hours at a time (i.e. though constant turning, rather than the unpredictable movement of the human wrist), the lubrication of the mechanism is worn out faster.

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It's still not over-wound. Wear and tear based on certain usage does not constitute over-winding. It's like saying running the chrono all day long will damage the watch. It may cause it to need servicing a bit earlier from wear but it will not damage it.
 
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Originally posted by Stryke
It's still not over-wound. Wear and tear based on certain usage does not constitute over-winding. It's like saying running the chrono all day long will damage the watch. It may cause it to need servicing a bit earlier from wear but it will not damage it.
this is strange logic Stryke. Saying that a certain action can hurt something means that if you do it, there are adverse effects.

Over-winding means that if you keep winding continually past a certain point, there will be a cost. Do we not agree this is the case? Whether the cost is a destroyed movement (unlikely unless you let it wind for a really long time) or simply a need for more regular service, the cost is still a result of overwinding.
 
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you guys are "overwinding" this thread!

again, muchisimos gracias por el "hijack."
 
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Yikes. 'Overwinding' is a non technical term, used by owners, to describe a symptom of a hand wound watch that has had the crown turned past the point of resistance, damaging the winding/setting mechanism, overbanking the escapement, or damaging the mainspring, stopping the watch. This cannot occur in an auto, as the crown never will get to the point of resistance, since there is a slipping clutch in the barrel.

Any watch is designed to run 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. Keeping one running on a watch winder is a convenience for many. Watches today use much better metals and lubricants that in years past, they're not going to wear out like watches from the 20's.

And, btw, I'm a master watchmaker by profession.
 
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we're arguing semantics now.

the bottom line as far as this thread is concerned is that it is NOT good for a watch to put it on an el cheapo winder that continuously winds in one direction without reprieve. i'll leave it at that.

damian, who do you work for? Care to share some of your work? maybe you could start a thread in OT, i'd love to see.
 
 
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