That is quite interesting.

 

Which numerous tests are these? Numerous tests also indicate the GT-R is much closer to the GT2 than the Turbo.

Not everything. He only mentions a good driver and the best tires. He did not make allowances for the weather. Only a fool would think the DR conditions were anything like what Suzuki had.

 

And there's an update to monaro's GT-R vs Focus RS comparison ("In some cases and some places other far more mundane cars can challenge the GTR"):

TopGear have done the same kind of test, using a Ford GT which has even more power and much less weight than the GT-R. Result: Even with The Stig driving against the journalist in the Focus RS, the Ford GT could not get away from the Focus on a winding mountain road either. The Focus could deploy 80+ % of its power in any given situation, the GT was nothing near that.

Car Magazine has taken the Focus RS, Renault Megane R26.R (claimed 'Ring time of 8:17), and VW Gold GTI around the Nurburgring, with the same driver, Andy Gulden, that they used for the GT3/GT-R comparo. Times were:
Focus RS - 8:47.1
Megane R26.R - 8:42.6
GTI - 8:54.6

The Megane was 25.6s off the pace from Renault's claim. Did Renault cheat too? Not necessarily. From the text:
"We guessed the Megane would be quickest but that the roadworks and Andy's unfamiliarity with the car would make matching Renault's 8min 17sec claim impossible."
He had only a warmup and one flying, timed lap. Nothing else.

Notice that the Focus RS is nearly a full minute slower than the GT-R with the same driver and perhaps similar conditions. The GT-R is not a small car (like you claim, mC) which prefers tight, twisty tracks. All of the evidence seems to suggest otherwise. And it's entirely possible that the GT-R is optimized to deploy near 100% of its ability at any point on the 'Ring, whereas other cars like the ZR1, CGT, GT2, Zonda, CCX, etc will need either a superhuman beyond the skill level of even Rohrl, or they will need a much faster track with larger safety margins before they can begin to approach 100%. To my knowledge, no such track yet exists.

 

7:59 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R33, 280 PS/1530 kg Dirk Schoymans (Autocar magazine 1997)

Anyone forget Nissan's past? Nissan used Dirk as their driver for the record lap and invited Autocar to publish its result. Months later Autocar retested a stock showroom version GTR with Dirk as its driver, their second result with a stock car was less than what was hoped for.

I wonder how Suzuki would do if he was given a stock showroom car to drive, my guess is that it would be the same as Dirk on the R33.

 

Nope, no one forgot. You got two answers in here:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...2-post101.html

Yes, we know about that R33 mule (missing airbox, on worn tires, after hundreds of laps when things "gelled" for the golden lap, etc). I brought that up on the Vette forum long ago.

HvS is only 12 seconds slower than Suzuki in 2010 GT-R's, and now you're saying that Suzuki would be 30 seconds slower than his 7:26 in a showroom stock car. Does that make any sense? What part of "276 kph on the Doettinger Hoehe straight for both cars" do you not understand?

Funny how you keep avoiding the Prost issue, monaro. Let's see that source.

 

Original report makes perfect sense to me

 

excellent read, thanks for posting!