anyone trading up to the 2011 GTR?
anyone trading up to the 2011 GTR?
The new 2011 GTR just arrived in HK, I've just test driven the Pure Edition. They really improved a lot. Especially the GR6, shifts feels much quicker then my 07.... the stock car feels even faster then mine with the GT570 kit!
But I'm not really sure if its worth upgrading to the new one... after all, I gotta pay another 750k HKD to trade up.... I could easily pick up an used 360 Modena for that amount!!
anyone considering trading up?
But I'm not really sure if its worth upgrading to the new one... after all, I gotta pay another 750k HKD to trade up.... I could easily pick up an used 360 Modena for that amount!!
anyone considering trading up?
In the US it the new one is coming out as the 2012 Model and haven't heard of the "pure edition."
I ordered a 2012 Black edition and am supposed to receive my Vin no. next week.
US Release dates and Production numbers were released this week and posted on NAGTROC. Production is going to be very low. Premium will be released on 2/3/2011 with 748 Units and Black Edition released on 4/3/2011 with only 403 units.
Photos of the first 2012 Black Edition were released yesterday and posted on NAGTROC from the Montreal Auto Show (below) not sure if I like this blue and can't stand the black edition wheels. I'll be taking them off as soon as the car arrives!

I ordered a 2012 Black edition and am supposed to receive my Vin no. next week.
US Release dates and Production numbers were released this week and posted on NAGTROC. Production is going to be very low. Premium will be released on 2/3/2011 with 748 Units and Black Edition released on 4/3/2011 with only 403 units.
Photos of the first 2012 Black Edition were released yesterday and posted on NAGTROC from the Montreal Auto Show (below) not sure if I like this blue and can't stand the black edition wheels. I'll be taking them off as soon as the car arrives!

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I bought a new 2010 GT-R on Dec. 21, 2010.
Why did I pull the trigger on a 2010 and not wait for a 2012? Here is my reasoning.
1 A new 2012 would cost about $14,000 more.
2 The 2012 has 522 bhp vs 485 bhp (37 bhp more) over the 2010 model due to new intake and exhaust. But for the 2010 you can buy a ECU flash kit and a middle-pipe (a problem) for $2,000 and gain 100 bhp. You can currently also buy larger intake piping to make even more bhp if you wanted too.
3 I don't like the look of the 2012's new wheels. There are some minor suspension changes to improve under-steer, and some electronic gizmo changes that really do not improve performance. You can also buy after-market improvements to the 2010's suspension if you want, which appears to do the same thing. Current ride stiffness is OK with me in the 2010, I like it.
4 The 2012 has newer seats and a newly refined interior (they say). I really don't care too much about all that. The 2010 model is "all business" and the interior is the best of any car I have ever owned in the past. Barking up the wrong tree here for me, otherwise I would have bought a Mercedes.
5 The difference between the 2012 vs 2010 model was asked of a test car driver who had just track test driven the 2012. When pressed to comment, he said "it (the 2012 model) is only a minor improvement" over the original car design which is excellent on the track. This comment finally made up my mind which to buy (or upgrade).
6 The 2009-2011 models have a lot of aftermarket support by tuners now and parts are also more available. The 2012-2013 will be the last of the R-35 models made, with less parts available because of less sold in the USA. Service techs in my area will see more 2009-2011 cars vs none of the 2012 model. US Release dates and Production numbers posted on NAGTROC show Premium will be released on 2/3/2011 with 748 Units and Black Edition released on 4/3/2011 with only 403 units.
7 Invest the same amount of money in a new 2010 as in a 2012, and you can gain 175 whp.
8 Overall, the 2012 did not seem to offer that much improvement and I like actually like the look of the 2010 better (LED running lights do not turn me on). On the track, I probably would never be able to tell the difference between the two models anyway, unless I trained to become a professional driver LOL! And that will never happen! 7:20 vs 7:26 on the ring is just bragging rights and does not really impact me at all in the real world. But perhaps a modified 2010 to perform a 2.6s 0-60 vs a 2012 3.0s does.
Why did I pull the trigger on a 2010 and not wait for a 2012? Here is my reasoning.
1 A new 2012 would cost about $14,000 more.
2 The 2012 has 522 bhp vs 485 bhp (37 bhp more) over the 2010 model due to new intake and exhaust. But for the 2010 you can buy a ECU flash kit and a middle-pipe (a problem) for $2,000 and gain 100 bhp. You can currently also buy larger intake piping to make even more bhp if you wanted too.
3 I don't like the look of the 2012's new wheels. There are some minor suspension changes to improve under-steer, and some electronic gizmo changes that really do not improve performance. You can also buy after-market improvements to the 2010's suspension if you want, which appears to do the same thing. Current ride stiffness is OK with me in the 2010, I like it.
4 The 2012 has newer seats and a newly refined interior (they say). I really don't care too much about all that. The 2010 model is "all business" and the interior is the best of any car I have ever owned in the past. Barking up the wrong tree here for me, otherwise I would have bought a Mercedes.
5 The difference between the 2012 vs 2010 model was asked of a test car driver who had just track test driven the 2012. When pressed to comment, he said "it (the 2012 model) is only a minor improvement" over the original car design which is excellent on the track. This comment finally made up my mind which to buy (or upgrade).
6 The 2009-2011 models have a lot of aftermarket support by tuners now and parts are also more available. The 2012-2013 will be the last of the R-35 models made, with less parts available because of less sold in the USA. Service techs in my area will see more 2009-2011 cars vs none of the 2012 model. US Release dates and Production numbers posted on NAGTROC show Premium will be released on 2/3/2011 with 748 Units and Black Edition released on 4/3/2011 with only 403 units.
7 Invest the same amount of money in a new 2010 as in a 2012, and you can gain 175 whp.
8 Overall, the 2012 did not seem to offer that much improvement and I like actually like the look of the 2010 better (LED running lights do not turn me on). On the track, I probably would never be able to tell the difference between the two models anyway, unless I trained to become a professional driver LOL! And that will never happen! 7:20 vs 7:26 on the ring is just bragging rights and does not really impact me at all in the real world. But perhaps a modified 2010 to perform a 2.6s 0-60 vs a 2012 3.0s does.
I bought a new 2010 GT-R on Dec. 21, 2010.
Why did I pull the trigger on a 2010 and not wait for a 2012? Here is my reasoning.
1 A new 2012 would cost about $14,000 more.
2 The 2012 has 522 bhp vs 485 bhp (37 bhp more) over the 2010 model due to new intake and exhaust. But for the 2010 you can buy a ECU flash kit and a middle-pipe (a problem) for $2,000 and gain 100 bhp. You can currently also buy larger intake piping to make even more bhp if you wanted too.
3 I don't like the look of the 2012's new wheels. There are some minor suspension changes to improve under-steer, and some electronic gizmo changes that really do not improve performance. You can also buy after-market improvements to the 2010's suspension if you want, which appears to do the same thing. Current ride stiffness is OK with me in the 2010, I like it.
4 The 2012 has newer seats and a newly refined interior (they say). I really don't care too much about all that. The 2010 model is "all business" and the interior is the best of any car I have ever owned in the past. Barking up the wrong tree here for me, otherwise I would have bought a Mercedes.
5 The difference between the 2012 vs 2010 model was asked of a test car driver who had just track test driven the 2012. When pressed to comment, he said "it (the 2012 model) is only a minor improvement" over the original car design which is excellent on the track. This comment finally made up my mind which to buy (or upgrade).
6 The 2009-2011 models have a lot of aftermarket support by tuners now and parts are also more available. The 2012-2013 will be the last of the R-35 models made, with less parts available because of less sold in the USA. Service techs in my area will see more 2009-2011 cars vs none of the 2012 model. US Release dates and Production numbers posted on NAGTROC show Premium will be released on 2/3/2011 with 748 Units and Black Edition released on 4/3/2011 with only 403 units.
7 Invest the same amount of money in a new 2010 as in a 2012, and you can gain 175 whp.
8 Overall, the 2012 did not seem to offer that much improvement and I like actually like the look of the 2010 better (LED running lights do not turn me on). On the track, I probably would never be able to tell the difference between the two models anyway, unless I trained to become a professional driver LOL! And that will never happen! 7:20 vs 7:26 on the ring is just bragging rights and does not really impact me at all in the real world. But perhaps a modified 2010 to perform a 2.6s 0-60 vs a 2012 3.0s does.
Why did I pull the trigger on a 2010 and not wait for a 2012? Here is my reasoning.
1 A new 2012 would cost about $14,000 more.
2 The 2012 has 522 bhp vs 485 bhp (37 bhp more) over the 2010 model due to new intake and exhaust. But for the 2010 you can buy a ECU flash kit and a middle-pipe (a problem) for $2,000 and gain 100 bhp. You can currently also buy larger intake piping to make even more bhp if you wanted too.
3 I don't like the look of the 2012's new wheels. There are some minor suspension changes to improve under-steer, and some electronic gizmo changes that really do not improve performance. You can also buy after-market improvements to the 2010's suspension if you want, which appears to do the same thing. Current ride stiffness is OK with me in the 2010, I like it.
4 The 2012 has newer seats and a newly refined interior (they say). I really don't care too much about all that. The 2010 model is "all business" and the interior is the best of any car I have ever owned in the past. Barking up the wrong tree here for me, otherwise I would have bought a Mercedes.
5 The difference between the 2012 vs 2010 model was asked of a test car driver who had just track test driven the 2012. When pressed to comment, he said "it (the 2012 model) is only a minor improvement" over the original car design which is excellent on the track. This comment finally made up my mind which to buy (or upgrade).
6 The 2009-2011 models have a lot of aftermarket support by tuners now and parts are also more available. The 2012-2013 will be the last of the R-35 models made, with less parts available because of less sold in the USA. Service techs in my area will see more 2009-2011 cars vs none of the 2012 model. US Release dates and Production numbers posted on NAGTROC show Premium will be released on 2/3/2011 with 748 Units and Black Edition released on 4/3/2011 with only 403 units.
7 Invest the same amount of money in a new 2010 as in a 2012, and you can gain 175 whp.
8 Overall, the 2012 did not seem to offer that much improvement and I like actually like the look of the 2010 better (LED running lights do not turn me on). On the track, I probably would never be able to tell the difference between the two models anyway, unless I trained to become a professional driver LOL! And that will never happen! 7:20 vs 7:26 on the ring is just bragging rights and does not really impact me at all in the real world. But perhaps a modified 2010 to perform a 2.6s 0-60 vs a 2012 3.0s does.
What you forget is the warranty associated with buying a 2012 along with the sub 3 second 0-60 times and the extra horsepower. You can't maintain your 2010 warranty and still get the extra horsepower. The horsepower isn't so cheap when you run into issues with your 2010. The dealer will try to relate everything into you "upgrading" the horsepower. I can hear it now, "the reason you have electrical problems is because you hooked-up that Cobb tuner to the ECU and it screwed up everything" or "the engine seized because you had bigger turbos and had nothing to do with tech not putting oil back in your car after the oil change."
While waiting for the warranty to expire, I will work on improving my driving skills. After that, I may just leave it leave it stock, or otherwise be ready for additional power, most likely 100+ whp and not 40 bhp. I also hope that any bugs in future enhanced performance packages will have been worked out by then and their prices drop as well.
This plan works for me, but everyone is different. I just thought I would share why I chose not to buy a 2012, that's all. Perhaps this might help someone else out there making decisions along these same lines.
I will definitely stay away from drag racing you in your 2012 GT-R, well perhaps for at least three years!
And God have mercy on his soul if that Tech you mentioned above every touches my car!Thanks tar6day, I hope this makes sense.
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