You must be talking about a very high HP TT Gallardo?? The UGR 1500+ whp Gallardos are not the standard builds (although it sure seems that way now, doesn't it..). The more common 1150-1200 whp on race gas, IMO, would be very close with an R1K build from 100-150, and would get beat at the drag strip by the GTR.

This is all just speculation on my part. I am sure with time, all will be confirmed.

 

With the price of the early Gallardo's not much more than a new GTR or 1 year old GTR. I wonder what the advantages of each platform are if hypothetically the costs were equal.

 

If you are talking about a standard build for an 04/05 Gallalrdo with 850 whp pump and 1200 on race gas, then they are indeed very similarly priced with an R1K GTR (with the Gallardo being just a little more, still)

In this scenario, and IMO after owning both, the advantages of the GTR are:
-DCT trans
-Better DD
-Better performance oriented (better handling, steering feedback, etc.)
-Enjoyment of Modern technology

The advantage of the Gallardo are:
-It's a L A M B O R G H I N I
-It can get you more *** than a toilet seat
-It has much better high speed stability
-It is by far the better looking car (subjective, but who would object to that? )

Now once you start talking about the high HP Gallardo builds (1400+ rwhp - Stand alone ECU, longer gears, built trans, half shafts, etc.), even an 04/05 Gallardo starts to become much, much more expensive that a GTR, even one with an R1K build.

 

Great info there, I imagine as far as pure handling and ability to put down big power. Its hard to beat a car like the R1K with its stage 3 DCT, I wonder what the differences are as far as time between rebuilds and resale value. Also were the 160 mph traps recorded by a standard R1K? I would imagine that is a high 8 second to low 9 second car with a good surface. Are most of these builds running standard street tires? It looks like most of them are running standard street tires.

 

Neil,

waiting for your good results.

will one of your R1Ks attend Texas Miles?

 

On the topic of cost, were I to purchase an '04 or '05 6 speed Gallardo with 10-15k miles and send it to UGR for a Stage 3 package (the least expensive setup I'd do), it would cost a minimum of $50k more for the TTG than a R1K GT-R.

Believe me, I tossed this around in my head for a while before deciding that I couldn't justify the extra $$ for what I expect to be very similar performance. Down the road, I may eventually move to a TTG. We'll see.

The first R1K is the car that recorded the 161 mph traps. Since then, Tym has improved the R1K curve significantly (boost starts earlier and torque has been increased) and much better clutch options are now available that weren't available then. Coulda' woulda', shoulda'; but it's my personal opinion is that if that first R1K simply had a better clutch setup (with the same power curve), it would have gone faster than 161 mph. My car will be running a Promax setup, which should be plenty of clutch for my power level.

I plan on running standard street tires and 100 octane 99% of the time. I'll run DRs at the strip.

 

It was the 1300 whp Nera. It went 2.89 100-150 at the dragstrip during its 9.1 @ 169 run. I have the .dbn file.

 

I don't believe there will be any R1Ks in TX this year.

 

I wonder what a 1300 whp GTR would do..

 

I will be completely honest and say that the Gallardo, especially when TT'd, leaves an unmatched emotioinal feeling while driving it. I am pretty sure I will be getting back into one after experiencing the GTR, but only if I can financially swing a TT Superleggera / 560 with an E-gear. The 04/05+ manual would just feel historic after experiencing the GTR's DCT.

Anyway, back on topic.....I am pretty sure Scott's GTR or any upcoming R1K GTR will beat the documented 60-130 time of 3.5 secs of that TT Nera. =) (No pressure, Switzer, LOL)

 

The Nera was actually running quite a bit more than 1300hp....but it supposedly wasn't a "clean" run either

Tim and I were running low 4's 60-130 Sat night in his TTG. It was apparently making about 1250hp. My fat *** was in the car, windows were down, first timed runs he made, etc. So I'd expect it to run a bit better in ideal conditions with some more time behind the wheel. What did Tym record in Mike's R1K? Something like a 3.8? So I would think it'd be a VERY close race. Remember, UGR is using a rear wheel dynojet, so put an R1K on the same dyno in rear wheel drive and I'd expect a different graph. Drop it down to a 40 roll, and a 6 speed TTG would most likely need more hp to win a race to say 150. I really wish Mike's R1K could come down to Tx to finally line these cars up.

I drove Tim's TTG Saturday and I have to say, there's not a big difference in "driving feel" between the GTR and Gallardo. Sure, your emotions elevate your perspectives since you're in a lambo, but both cars are incredibly effortless and smooth to drive at speed - completely different from say a 1200hp Supra - and even more refined than Kim's 900whp 997 GT2 that I had a chance to drive last fall - which I thought was light years ahead of my 996 GT2. So those who say GTR's are 'boring" will probably think the same thing about a Gallardo. I actually find it a positive - but maybe I'm getting old.

BTW, congrats on the new build Scott!

 

Awesome post Jamie, and great point on the differences between UGR's RWD Dynojet and Buschur's AWD Mustang.

Your perspective on the feel of both cars is pretty interesting as well. I'd really like to drive a TTG after my R1K is done to compare the differences. Preferably, back to back.

 

Any pics of your GTR yet?

 

I'l post pics after the build starts.

 

I can make that happen. We just need to get together when your car is done. Do a pull - stop - switch cars.