hi guys,
I am shopping for my next car and considering a used 2010 V8 Panamera 4S which is on top of my list. I like the NA V8 engine and also not so thrill about V6 twin turbo. I read a lot on this forum and knowing it is definitely a must to buy a CPO from dealer. but I wonder if there's any known issues keep on happening for 2010 P4S? Can someone share their thoughts such as cost of ownership and over all experience with 2010 P4S?

Thanks in advanced.

 

If you get a cpo you should be able to work out the kinks for free, if previous owners haven't already done it.

 

Can't comment on that specific car. The thing that stands out for me, owning a PSeH, is that rear visibility is poor. There may be a lot of glass in that rear hatch, but it's a long way away from you, and the C-pillars are quite wide. So adjust your side mirrors so they cover everything, rather than making them almost parallel with the rear view mirror the way most of us do. A rear-view camera is almost a must, and lane change assist very helpful. Surround View cameras are even better, if you can find them.

As far as kinks, I'll echo FeelTheRush - if you're buying CPO, that really shouldn't be a worry.

 

I have had my 2010 4S for over two years and I have been very pleased with it. My car has a AWE exhaust and the Porsche Sport Design body kit which I think gives it a great sound and a nicer look. My car did have issues (I have all the service records) but they were all sorted out long before I bought it.

 

thank you all very much for sharing! I think all I need is a test drive and a less snob sales person. I wasn't too impress last time when I step into a local Porsche dealership, guess I probably wearing summer shorts and sandals.

Not sure if this is universal between US/Canada, but if an individual is selling his P4S that's still under warranty, can I still ask Porsche Canada to certified it and once it is certified, I buy extend warranty/maintenance plan from dealer to keep warranty longer?

 

by the way, is air suspension a good option to have for P4S? Theoretically I like it a lot because as a Porsche fan boy I always dream to have this cool feature combine with PASM so when the car is driven fast and hard, the ride high gets lowered automatically. However, when I am really thinking owning a Porsche for real, I got a bit hesitate as a normal car owner...

 

Salesmen vary considerably. The smart ones know that casual attire means nothing about how serious a buyer is. You could always try a different dealership. Though personally I wouldn't test drive in sandals because they'd impair the driving experience.

CPO is a pretty specific process, and it only applies to dealership sales. It's always possible to buy a private warranty, but that's not exactly the same. You're essentially buying insurance, where you pay the company X dollars, and the company estimates that the average cost of repairs will be less than that. They pay out a handful of claims for more than X dollars, while collecting premiums from a much larger pool of clients, most of whom won't make any claims.

Yes, air suspension is a great feature. It doesn't, however, automatically lower the height. Rather, when you tap Sport, or Sport+, or the suspension button, that lowers the height and stiffens the ride. Then you drive fast and hard.

 

Thanks Gus. hopefully next time when I go visit another Porsche dealership, they will not judge the book by its covers. I ain't rich in any way but I definitely want to be a Porsche owner. I will keep on researching and hopefully I can come back and share my joy soon.

 

I have a fully loaded 2012 4S and the car is real nice... i havent upgraded any pipes yet but the car is pretty silent at stock...

 

I had a 2010 P4S with air suspension and all the other goodies. I only had two complaints and the dealer could not solve either one.

The PDK would act like I dropped the clutch when takin off from a light and jerk like crazy about half the time. The other times it was great.

The intake had a whistle at certain times during not regular driving (not hard but just normal). Again two dealers could not fix and others have said the same of their 2010 cars as well

Try driving and if these don't exist or don't bother you go for it. Mine was a great car.

 

Thanks Samp and Yesser for sharing.

Samp: I read about that issue somewhere from this forum too and my biggest concern is the PDK been jerky while driving/taking off. Does that happen often in your car? If that happens, how long will it last? The reason why I like about Panamera is it equips with PDK (all trims) and in my mind it is probably the best auto tran in the industry according to my friend who owned quite a lot of cars. I didn't even think about the recent Cayenne since it has 8 speed tiptronics from Audi except the turbo model if I am not mistaken. Don't get me wrong, Cayenne is a wonderful ride but just I don't feel to have a SUV as my daily driver...

 

I traded for a 2014 911. I also own a 2014 PTT and nether have any issues with the PDK. They are both great.

With my 2010 P4S it was only when taking off from a start and would let the revs go up to about 1000-1200 then jump. It happened probably 40-50% of the time. Once under way it was fine till the next light. Hot or cold did not matter. I think it was mapping or something and not a failure issue but an annoyance.

 

Did you drive that car in Sport Mode?.. I think my car may do the same in normal mode.. But its fine in sport mode.. And I drive in that mode 95% of the time. Normal is just too laggy for my taste..

 

I was reading about the details of how the EPA does fuel efficiency testing, and I realized that the default modes (no mode for most Panameras, e-Power for my PSeH) are so underwhelming because Porsche knows that's how the EPA will test the car, so they optimize for fuel efficiency over performance. My PSeH doesn't want to the rev the engine unless it's in Sport mode, even if you have the accelerator floored.

Of course Porsche knows no one really wants to drive that way, so they optimize Sport for what customers actually want.

 

I had the issue in all three modes. It was not an eps thing either. I drove a couple other 2010 P cars and they did not have this problem. Mine also never had it till around 12000 miles.