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Old 02-11-2012, 08:17 AM
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Coolant pipe repair. Parts needed....

Some of us will do this repair. I would like to be able to order all the parts needed before starting the job. You know how it is to wait for 2 to 3 weeks to get parts you didn't know it was necessary....Please if you see something missing let me know and I will add it to the list. Thanks for your help.... Also if there are any parts needed for the engine removal/installation, please let me know....

There is a total of 8 pipes to weld (6 straight and 2 curved). See Mad Ness post #20: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...p-motor-2.html Thanks Mad Ness and smdubovsky for the info and pictures....

First: The pipe behind the alternator with the elbow and a straight pipe under (not shown on parts list) 2 pipes total.
Added today o-rings for the check valve under the oil reservoir due to reservoir removal to revive the bracket under the oil cooler.


Parts needed: item# 17: 999 707 410 40 X 2 ( update 2 needed)
item# 21: 999 707 411 40 X 4
item# 19: 996 106 214 70 X 2 (If elongated....)

2 more o-rings needed for engine reinstallation small L/H fuel pipe: Black o-ring: 999 707 505 40 X 1 Beige o-ring: 999 707 506 40 X1
Also for reservoir removal: Check valve o-ring under reservoir item#27 999 707 364 40 X 1
 
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Old 02-11-2012, 08:27 AM
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Second , the water pump housing: 3 pipes.

Parts needed: Item#3: 996 106 340 71 X 1 (if needed due heat application)
item#8: 996 106 326 70 X 1 (if needed due heat application)
item#15: 999 707 410 40 X 2 if needed....
item#16: 996 106 214 70 X 2 (if they are elongated)
item#18: 999 707 411 40 X 4
item#29: 999 707 315 40 X 1
item#30: 999 707 468 40 X 1 only if you remove the turbo pumps
item#28: 900 123 144 30 X 2 Coolant drains.

Added: turbos supply and return lines 6 o-rings:
item# 19: 999 701 789 40 X 6
 
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Old 02-11-2012, 08:33 AM
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Third the oil filter bracket (2 pipes)

Parts needed: item# 4: 999 707 422 40 X 2
item# 5: 999 707 426 40 X 1
item# 6: 999 707 113 40 X 1
item# 8: 999 701 789 40 X 1
item# 9: 999 707 446 40 X 1
item#14: 999 707 409 40 X 4
item#27: 996 107 217 70 X 1

Get yourself some silicone to seal the part# 1 to the engine block. It is the crankcase breather going to the oil reservoir, no seal provided....
 
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good post but you've missed one pipe, there are eight not seven. The last one is on the bracket that holds the power steering pump.

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good post but you've missed one pipe, there are eight not seven. The last one is on the bracket that holds the power steering pump.

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You got me! I know there was two curved one but did not locate it in the parts cat. Can you? Is it the one I just added on my post + do you think the parts circle is needed....Thanks a lot!
 
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Another one to do as mention by And996tt, thanks!

Finally one pipe on the steering pump bracket (curved)

Part needed : item # 5: 999 707 298 40 X 1
item# 15: 999 707 204 40 X 1 seal between reservoir and steering pump

Also the seal between the steering pump and the reservoir if removed:
 
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yeah good job JP, i would also order the coolant hoses, the big one, i have seen one fail on the track on a GT3, same as the turbo i beleive, it litteraly split in half in the length side, not accross it, pretty weird.

Good time to change the fuel filter and the coolant tank if not already done. I have my tank ready to go in when i do my engine with the welded fittings next winter. Tank is already in stock and fittings are in the mail.
 
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yeah good job JP, i would also order the coolant hoses, the big one, i have seen one fail on the track on a GT3, same as the turbo i beleive, it litteraly split in half in the length side, not accross it, pretty weird.

Good time to change the fuel filter and the coolant tank if not already done. I have my tank ready to go in when i do my engine with the welded fittings next winter. Tank is already in stock and fittings are in the mail.
Very good point Alex. I have found 2 links for part# if needed for the hoses. Suggestions from Kevin, fdorn (Frank) and Paulunm on Rennlist

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...the-track.html

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...s-kevin-2.html
 
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Anyone know what happened to the DIY coolant pinning thread (not the sharkwerks one)? I can't find it anywhere.


N/M I forgot it was on rennlist.

Here is a link though to anyone interested.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...n-the-car.html
 

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Anyone know what happened to the DIY coolant pinning thread (not the sharkwerks one)? I can't find it anywhere.


N/M I forgot it was on rennlist.

Here is a link though to anyone interested.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...n-the-car.html
Wow! I was not aware of this thread and also was not aware of the threaded fittings option!!! What a clean job!!! Thanks for posting heavychevy!
 
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I sent that thread, along with sharkwerks thread to my mechanic to study. He's really good at that type of stuff. I'd rather the pin option honestly as not one case of pinned fittings has reported leaking, yet at least a few cases of welded ones have reported it. Plus I don't want to pull the engine out just for that.
 
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Man something must be in the air. I am seeing lots of threads with this failure all over this past two months. It was quiet for a while.
Lots of good repair options luckily.
 
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Has anyone seen a 2003 or 2004 996 Turbo with this failure yet? I have not seen one.
 
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IMO, this failure is just a matter of time on all 996TT's. There may be a few out there that for some reason never fail, but I think the majority will fail over time and use. I had one of the earlier failures, as I drive my car a lot and it failed at roughly 7 years, 80,000 miles a few years ago. We replaced it with a brand new, off the shelf Porsche OEM part. The new OEM part lasted 6 months and failed on the opposite side of the first failure. At that point, I mentioned that I felt this was going to become a common occurrence as these cars age...I think we are seeing it now and I don't think it's going to stop.
 
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The threaded option is probably "enough"..thoughts?


And, I put a thread up on rennlist in the de section/racing section....3500+ views and a lot of vitriol.

Hoping NHTSA makes this a recall. There is a list of events in the 997gt2/gt3 section on rennlist....

DIY is:
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...n-the-car.html




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