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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 08:33 PM
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I saw some stuff about that car on Instagram because I follow the shop that's been building it. Is it true that car was running meth, C16, and a 70 shot? Was the ~700 whp on pump gas with no nitrous? There was some weird stuff being said and I'd appreciate some clarification. Thanks.
I believe it was 700 wheel tq
What shop?
 
Old Aug 16, 2015 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ecpChris
I believe it was 700 wheel tq
What shop?
TopSpeed Motorsports in Georgia. They said they're going to release a video soon, but didn't give a date and it could be a while. I was hoping I could get some info on the car here since Cobb mentioned it.

It was 697 whp and 686 wtq.

 

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Cobb vs GIAC

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Good god that is a huge number. What modifications does that car have? And has it been run at the dragstrip yet?
No one has answered my question. To produce almost 700 wheel hp and 700 wheel torque from this engine you need a lot more mods than just a tune. I wonder what they were as that is an a amazing level of power from this engine. Wish mine made that kind of power.
 
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Cobb vs GIAC

Originally Posted by lys
I saw some stuff about that car on Instagram because I follow the shop that's been building it. Is it true that car was running meth, C16, and a 70 shot? Was the ~700 whp on pump gas with no nitrous? There was some weird stuff being said and I'd appreciate some clarification. Thanks.
Me too. +1
 
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The car made ~603 whp and ~680 ft/lbs of torque at wheels on 93 octane only with meth injection. It has an entirely separate and dedicated C16 fuel system for the 70 shot. Obviously spraying a 70 shot throughout the rpm range would have put the torque up in the high 700s at the wheels, which is too high for engine longevity, so the spray wasn't triggered until well after peak torque...around 5k rpm. This resulted in the same amount of torque on boost only, but made about 80 whp more up top in the rpm range as you can see from the instagram photo.
 
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About these 997 numbers doesn't a Cobb tuned 997.1 hold the 60-130 record for stock turbos? Its faster than any 997 1or 2 on stock turbos. I think it ran a 5 second time and it was a custom Cobb tune by Dzenno from pro tuning freaks?
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Yea that's me. I plan upgrading to a 991 TTS in about a year and doing my best to set similar records with Cobb on this platform as well.
Sweet! Hit me up when you get into a 991 and we'll get her running strong as well.

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Depends on your point of view. I'm more impressed without the power adder
Personally too weak at heart for nitrous as well Makes people greedy for 400 shots way too quickly haha!

Originally Posted by A418t81
The car made ~603 whp and ~680 ft/lbs of torque at wheels on 93 octane only with meth injection. It has an entirely separate and dedicated C16 fuel system for the 70 shot. Obviously spraying a 70 shot throughout the rpm range would have put the torque up in the high 700s at the wheels, which is too high for engine longevity, so the spray wasn't triggered until well after peak torque...around 5k rpm. This resulted in the same amount of torque on boost only, but made about 80 whp more up top in the rpm range as you can see from the instagram photo.
Yea saw the curve, not too pretty, could use some more work to smooth things out and bring it on a little more progressively over the RPM range. Looks like it was just button triggered 100% spray

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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 09:35 AM
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600whp on 93 octane plus meth.

700whp on a 70shot of nitrous. Nitrous is not for every body, but another nice thing about custom tuning is you can make and save calibrations of someone wanted to be able to run it. Different for sure from the normal Porsche stuff but bad *** none the less!

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Originally Posted by A418t81
The car made ~603 whp and ~680 ft/lbs of torque at wheels on 93 octane only with meth injection. It has an entirely separate and dedicated C16 fuel system for the 70 shot. Obviously spraying a 70 shot throughout the rpm range would have put the torque up in the high 700s at the wheels, which is too high for engine longevity, so the spray wasn't triggered until well after peak torque...around 5k rpm. This resulted in the same amount of torque on boost only, but made about 80 whp more up top in the rpm range as you can see from the instagram photo.
Thanks for the clarification. That puts things into much better perspective.

Still very cool to see people doing things out of the box and pushing the envelope!
 
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600whp on 93 octane plus meth.

700whp on a 70shot of nitrous. Nitrous is not for every body, but another nice thing about custom tuning is you can make and save calibrations of someone wanted to be able to run it. Different for sure from the normal Porsche stuff but bad *** none the less!

Thanks,

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No qualms about leaning on a meth kit with pump gas? If the kit fails and the motor pops, that's one expensive bang.

Is this car a street car or has the daily usability gone out the window?
 
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Still a street car. I also don't think they are leaning on the meth too much. Topspeed is very qualified in the tuning department.

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Still a street car. I also don't think they are leaning on the meth too much. Topspeed is very qualified in the tuning department.

-Mitch
+1 Rob is the man and Ciscio is cool too. They did a great job on my car.
 
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Originally Posted by A418t81
The car made ~603 whp and ~680 ft/lbs of torque at wheels on 93 octane only with meth injection. It has an entirely separate and dedicated C16 fuel system for the 70 shot. Obviously spraying a 70 shot throughout the rpm range would have put the torque up in the high 700s at the wheels, which is too high for engine longevity, so the spray wasn't triggered until well after peak torque...around 5k rpm. This resulted in the same amount of torque on boost only, but made about 80 whp more up top in the rpm range as you can see from the instagram photo.
Wow that is a ton of power.

C16 is leaded race fuel. I suppose if the car is catless then the fact that it kills cats is not of concern. But what about leaded fuel's effects on oxygen sensors? Is there some sort of work around for that? I love race gas but use the top unleaded race fuel when I want race gas: MS109 (or Torco 108 if no MS109 is available).

At 700 wheel horsepower car should quarter in the 9s for sure and be a killer in competitions.
 
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Looks like 10.0sec in 1/4. No trap speed

Take a look at the World's Highest Horsepower Porsche​ 991 built by Vengeance Racing​! This build makes 697whp and 686wtq via it's COBB Tuning​ Access Port tuned by TopSpeed Motorsports​.

Modifications:
- Techart power plenum
- Tubi catback exhaust
- Stainless turbo headers
- Fabspeed cat delete pipes
- Nitrous Outlet dual bottle nozzle system
- Cobb Access tune
- Pirelli Trofeo R tires w/ Techart wheels for track
- Alky Control methanol injection system
 
Old Aug 23, 2015 | 01:25 PM
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Cobb vs GIAC

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Looks like 10.0sec in 1/4. No trap speed

Take a look at the World's Highest Horsepower Porsche​ 991 built by Vengeance Racing​! This build makes 697whp and 686wtq via it's COBB Tuning​ Access Port tuned by TopSpeed Motorsports​.

Modifications:
- Techart power plenum
- Tubi catback exhaust
- Stainless turbo headers
- Fabspeed cat delete pipes
- Nitrous Outlet dual bottle nozzle system
- Cobb Access tune
- Pirelli Trofeo R tires w/ Techart wheels for track
- Alky Control methanol injection system
Congrats on a U.S. record for the 991 TTS. So meth and nitrous. What kind of fuel was used? C16 leaded race gas?

Also did you mean Tubi Catless race exhaust? Post says "Tubi catback"?

Also whose headers? FVD?
 

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