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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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they look pretty sweet! how much do the front and rear wheel weight in 21"?
 
Old Feb 8, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by advantyper
they look pretty sweet! how much do the front and rear wheel weight in 21"?
We just weighed a set we just received for inventory (same wheel, application, offset and sizes, but in the brushed/clear finish), and they came in at 25 front and 26 rear....pretty good for 21"!

The 20" versions come in at 22.5 front and 25 rear.

The 19" versions come in at 21 front and 23.5 rear.
 
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Very nice Peter, a 21" step lip would look great too and have people believe it is still a 20"... food for though.
 
Old Feb 8, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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i saw 21's and thought wayyy too big, but they actually fit the car just right, without a bling bling look to it, nicely done...
 
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The wheel design is great but c'mon, that is simply way too little tire and far too big a wheel for this car. This was a very very bad idea. Just because Porsche was being brave with 20's doesn't mean just go completely and utterly stupid. Overlooking the resultant puny looking brakes is impossible but hell, reducing the handling dynamics for the sake of attention seeking is just plain ridiculous. Please just put some 19's back on it and just lower it if looks are such an issue. I mean whats next? A Gt stripe down the middle of the car and a scoop in the roof?
 
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Originally Posted by speed21
Please just put some 19's back on it and just lower it if looks are such an issue. I mean whats next? A Gt stripe down the middle of the car and a scoop in the roof?
19"? So you are suggesting to go smaller than stock?? It is typically "normal" in the aftermarket wheel biz, to go one size larger than stock. The tires are 30 series front and 25 series rear, just like putting a 20" on a 997 which many have done. But no one goes down in size unless we are talking about a track use car.

We would have certainly lowered the car - however there are no lowering kits available - yet. As soon as there is one, the customer is bringing the car back for it.

And for those who like the wheel design but aren't a fan of 21"...since these wheels are built to order - we do offer the same wheel in both 19 and 20".
 
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Originally Posted by speed21
The wheel design is great but c'mon, that is simply way too little tire and far too big a wheel for this car. This was a very very bad idea. Just because Porsche was being brave with 20's doesn't mean just go completely and utterly stupid. Overlooking the resultant puny looking brakes is impossible but hell, reducing the handling dynamics for the sake of attention seeking is just plain ridiculous. Please just put some 19's back on it and just lower it if looks are such an issue. I mean whats next? A Gt stripe down the middle of the car and a scoop in the roof?
We can all express our opinions but what happened to "Life's too short...so let the good times roll!" ?
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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 07:51 AM
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Lol thanks PRS 7! Its ok though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. We are used to it....it was the same thing when we put 19" on the 996 and 20" on the 997.
 
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Originally Posted by peter@wheelexperts
Lol thanks PRS 7! Its ok though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. We are used to it....it was the same thing when we put 19" on the 996 and 20" on the 997.

exactly, always the same ol`complaints when a new 911 comes out. people will get used to it quickly.
 
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I've driven behind this car and around it several times when my wife was driving. It looks so so damn good tracking with the wheel size. And the brakes don't look bad either. Win City.
 
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Originally Posted by peter@wheelexperts
19"? So you are suggesting to go smaller than stock?? It is typically "normal" in the aftermarket wheel biz, to go one size larger than stock. The tires are 30 series front and 25 series rear, just like putting a 20" on a 997 which many have done. But no one goes down in size unless we are talking about a track use car.

We would have certainly lowered the car - however there are no lowering kits available - yet. As soon as there is one, the customer is bringing the car back for it.

And for those who like the wheel design but aren't a fan of 21"...since these wheels are built to order - we do offer the same wheel in both 19 and 20".
No, not suggesting that at all. Given the base Carrera car is stock with 19's and the S with 20"'s, 21's on a base car with the smaller brakes makes for a silly look imho....and it's really not a great deal better on the S which is why i said Porsche was being brave using 20's when the brakes are so visible as a performance feature of the car. So, diminishing that feature doesn't make a great deal of sense (to me anyway). Needless to say i'm yet to drive any P car that has stepped up its stock wheel diameter by an inch that has ever driven better than stock size. So there is a compromise in the fundamental handling capability of the car even if not by a great deal. Some folks may be prepared to accept that.

I accept all peoples tastes are different but am just merely a member expressing my opinion which i believe what was being basically asked for in your thread. If i have misinterpreted the reason for your thread or, offended anyone here I appologize but it won't change my view.

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We can all express our opinions but what happened to "Life's too short...so let the good times roll!" ?
The world needs more than chocolate and vanilla.
Life is too short actually. And the good times are still "rolling" ....well for me anyway Btw, if my expressing an opinion results in a negative outcome for those who see things different then perhaps it should be written into the header of the thread that only positive opinions to be given.

PS. I also happen to notice i'm certainly not the first to give a negative opinion on this thread. There were many before me. So why i'm copping the flack for posting my negative opinion is a mystery....but that's fine. I can take it. Give me your best shot.

Originally Posted by catchmyshadow
exactly, always the same ol`complaints when a new 911 comes out. people will get used to it quickly.
I doubt i'll ever get used to the look of a set of small brakes sitting inside an oversized wheel. It looks rediculous imho especially on a car like this.

If you think i'm complaining about the 991 as missing the mark in any way, you are also misreading me. My post was referring to a set of 21" aftermarket wheels on the car and, not the car itself. Should the car be blamed for having brakes that don't look any good inside a set of 21' rims? I dont think so. Sure the look of the brakes is border line on an S with stock 20"s. But 21's throw it too far over the line imho and take away too much from the look of the cars brakes....which (to me) were always a strong visual and performance feature of a Porsche.

991 to me, and going by all expert reviews and accounts place the new car notably ahead of its predecessor (the 997) on basically all fronts. You won't hear me having a lend of myself inferring the new car is not as good as my 997 regardless of how long i decide to keep my car.
 

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No, not suggesting that at all. Given the base Carrera car is stock with 19's and the S with 20"'s, 21's on a base car with the smaller brakes makes for a silly look imho....and it's really not a great deal better on the S which is why i said Porsche was being brave using 20's when the brakes are so visible as a performance feature of the car. So, diminishing that feature doesn't make a great deal of sense (to me anyway). Needless to say i'm yet to drive any P car that has stepped up its stock wheel diameter by an inch that has ever driven better than stock size. So there is a compromise in the fundamental handling capability of the car even if not by a great deal. Some folks may be prepared to accept that. I accept all peoples tastes are different but am just merely expressing my opinion which i believe what was being basically asked for in your thread. If i have misinterpreted the reason for for you thread or, offended anyone i here appologize but it doesn't change my view.



Life is too short actually. And the good times are still "rolling" ....well for me anyway Btw, if my expressing an opinion results in a negative outcome for those who see things different then perhaps it should be written into the header of the thread that only positive opinions to be given.

PS. I also happen to notice i'm certainly not the first to give a negative opinion on this thread. There were many before me. So why i'm copping the flack for posting my negative opinion is a mystery....but that's fine. I can take it. Give me your best.



If you think i'm complaining about the 991 as missing the mark in any way, you are misreading me. My post was referring to a set of 21" aftermarket wheels on the car and, not the car itself. Should the car be blamed for having brakes that don't look any good inside a set of 21' rims? I dont think so. Sure the look of the brakes is border line on an S with stock 20"s. But 21's throw it too far over the line imho and take away too much from the look of the cars brakes....which (to me) were always a strong visual and performance feature of a Porsche.

991 to me, and going by all expert reviews and accounts place the new car notably ahead of its predecessor (the 997) on basically all fronts. You won't hear me having a lend of myself inferring the new car is not as good as my 997 regardless of how long i decide to keep my car.
I am with you on this one. If it is out of proportion, it is never good. Also assume that Porsche has been doing "a few hours" of testing to make sure they have the correct (for most of us) set-up that shows off the car to it's best with the best compromises across all possible parameters. Some of which we have not been thinking about I bet.
 
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I am with you on this one. If it is out of proportion, it is never good. Also assume that Porsche has been doing "a few hours" of testing to make sure they have the correct (for most of us) set-up that shows off the car to it's best with the best compromises across all possible parameters. Some of which we have not been thinking about I bet.
Well sadly the photos indict that situation with the undersized brakes unfortunately. Other than that the wheels look great. An inch less (may) help to bring things back into a (semi) acceptable visual proportion. But as i pointed out to begin with (it's a bit hard to miss) the brakes already don't fill the void properly even with the 20"s. So why make that situation worse? In this situation the design of wheel can either accentuate or help reduce that problem. Anyway, its not happening here with 21's using that design that's fairly obvious. So whip me beat me for saying that.
 
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Didn't want anyone to think I was jumping on them - everyone is entitled to their own opinion!!

But we do offer 19 and 20" in the same wheel for those that think the 21" is too large
 


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