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Old May 8, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jaspergtr
But none of that matters, right? It is the misrepresentation of facts. Tiff is a loser who doesn't know how to drive a manual RWD car, nor keep time. Everything else is thrown out.
I'm unable to call Tiff a loser because he was a structural engineer (like me) before going on to a successful racing career. Perhaps it's not too late for me to likewise eventually become a racer, followed by becoming a tester/journalist who blows shifts.
 
Old May 8, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
I'm unable to call Tiff a loser because he was a structural engineer (like me) before going on to a successful racing career. Perhaps it's not too late for me to likewise eventually become a racer, followed by becoming a tester/journalist who blows shifts.
There is still hope. Maybe someday you'll reach, and gauge, success when being slighted by 6speed's resident professional racer, heavychevy.
 
Old May 8, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jaspergtr
Dude - I think you've been drinking. Answer this - If we both are on track - who would be the bench racer? And what the hell does that have anything to do with the results of this review? You're going off the deep end. Please stay focused.

What evidence? There is not one single category/performance test that ever put a Carrera anywhere NEAR the GT-R - ever, in any iteration.

That has to sting......

Not even sport auto? I just showed it to you!!!!!

.5 seconds is pretty close, and you know the 2013 is hardly faster than the 2012. And you know how fast the dunlops are.

Sounds close to me.

What was that about stinging? Why are you getting upset?

 
Old May 8, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Not even sport auto? I just showed it to you!!!!!

.5 seconds is pretty close, and you know the 2013 is hardly faster than the 2012. And you know how fast the dunlops are.

Sounds close to me.

What was that about stinging? Why are you getting upset?

Interesting - you just bench raced your way to another loss. What you did is use speculations, accusations, and a bunch of what-if's (tires, PDK, etc...) to fabricate something that didn't happen. All I heard is a bunch of excuses to justify something that shouldn't have ever been compared in the first place (performance wise).

I'll help you out here, so you don't hurt yourself - losing by .5secs is still losing. If you need clarification on what I said, I'll repost it.

So we'll wait while you make yourself look worse, trying to justify that losing counts as a win. And heavy - I can't get mad at those that act retarded, it makes me feel bad. Please help me out - and stop.
 

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Old May 8, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jaspergtr
Dude - I think you've been drinking. Answer this - If we both are on track - who would be the bench racer? And what the hell does that have anything to do with the results of this review? You're going off the deep end. Please stay focused.

What evidence? There is not one single category/performance test that ever put a Carrera anywhere NEAR the GT-R - ever, in any iteration.

That has to sting......
Originally Posted by jaspergtr
Interesting - you just bench raced your way to another loss. What you did is use speculations, accusations, and a bunch of what-if's (tires, PDK, etc...) to fabricate something that didn't happen. All I heard is a bunch of excuses to justify something that shouldn't have ever been compared in the first place (performance wise).

I'll help you out here, so you don't hurt yourself - losing by .5secs is still losing. If you need clarification on what I said, I'll repost it.

So we'll wait while you make yourself look worse, trying to justify that losing counts as a win. And heavy - I can't get mad at those that act retarded, it makes me feel bad. Please help me out - and stop.


.5 is close, make up your mind. Or are you confused now?


 
Old May 8, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
.5 is close, make up your mind. Or are you confused now?


So what performance test resulted in a .5sec difference?
 
Old May 8, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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Wow, you really are confused aren't you?

That tends to happen when you argue about stuff you have no clue about in a place you don't have any business posting with someone who knows more than you.

I'm not going to explain it again when I just explained it a couple of posts ago. Go back and read and try again amigo.
 
Old May 8, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Wow, you really are confused aren't you?

That tends to happen when you argue about stuff you have no clue about in a place you don't have any business posting with someone who knows more than you.

I'm not going to explain it again when I just explained it a couple of posts ago. Go back and read and try again amigo.
Nah, I just saw it... I ignored it after I saw blah, blah, blah Sport Auto (when this review is by EVO), if the Porsche had 'x' tire, blah, blah, bench racing....

I tuned the rest of the irrelevant stuff out. That's why I didn't even bother responding, there was nothing left.

You're reaching here. But please, don't let me stop your speculating and bench/mag racing. You'll get that win sooner or later.
 
Old May 8, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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You two crack me up! I would love to see you both race - using each other's cars! It would be fascinating to see what mind set would win, your competitive natures which would make you drive to the edge of each car's performance, or your desire to show the superior nature of your own cars, in which case you would drive as slowly as possible in the other's car to ensure a loss. That would result in the worlds slowest race!
 
Old May 8, 2012 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 2muchtime
I think a comparable test would be the 997TT vs the GTR not the 991 S
Fixed....
 
Old May 9, 2012 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by vntperformance
Fixed....
Agreed, but the opposite happened. I think the 997TT edged out the GT-R in one or more performance tests, but the GT-R was favored because of driver confidence in the car.
 
Old May 9, 2012 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by AG991
You two crack me up! I would love to see you both race - using each other's cars! It would be fascinating to see what mind set would win, your competitive natures which would make you drive to the edge of each car's performance, or your desire to show the superior nature of your own cars, in which case you would drive as slowly as possible in the other's car to ensure a loss. That would result in the worlds slowest race!
Because the GT-R is actually remote controlled by 8yr old kids in Japan, the car would stop, eject heavychevy, and continue the comparison without the driver.
 
Old May 9, 2012 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AG991
You two crack me up! I would love to see you both race - using each other's cars! It would be fascinating to see what mind set would win, your competitive natures which would make you drive to the edge of each car's performance, or your desire to show the superior nature of your own cars, in which case you would drive as slowly as possible in the other's car to ensure a loss. That would result in the worlds slowest race!
Jasper couldn't drive my car, because you actually have to shift it manually and use skill to go fast.



It also has only ABS, so no AWD, no Torque Vectoring, no gadgets to save him.

I think I'd rather stay in my own car. And it's not in the least bit slow.
 
Old May 9, 2012 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Jasper couldn't drive my car, because you actually have to shift it manually and use skill to go fast.



It also has only ABS, so no AWD, no Torque Vectoring, no gadgets to save him.

I think I'd rather stay in my own car. And it's not in the least bit slow.
You make a lot assumptions about me.

I'll admit the only thing it would take me a while to learn is how much brake is too much (when ABS interferes). But I drive other cars on track with no ABS with no problem (no AWD, and no torque vectoring, or any gadgets). Not sure why you keep insisting that people you don't know can or cannot do certain things. Prejudging much?

I'm starting to think you've never been to any track ever in your life.
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Jasper couldn't drive my car, because you actually have to shift it manually and use skill to go fast.



It also has only ABS, so no AWD, no Torque Vectoring, no gadgets to save him.

I think I'd rather stay in my own car. And it's not in the least bit slow.
So your firmly in the "I'm against PDK camp"....or I'm against the 991 camp...or both?
 


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