Video: Porsche 911 Carrera S v Nissan GT-R by EVO magazine:


http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/trackday...b8042fad506329

 

thanks for the link...

991 spanked on the course...2 seconds...what a machine the GTR is and so easy to drive....I guess its a better car than the 991.

 

The GTR is an amazing machine, it feels big when you pilot it but when you pushed it hard, it defines physic and corners like no others. Thanks for sharing.

 

Am I wrong when I can't shake the feeling that the Nissan is a fanboy drifter car. I wouldn't buy one regardless of how fast, or how cheap it is. I have to admit, I feel this way about just about every Japanese car. At 41 years old, I could never see myself in any of them. I'm surprised that any German or Italian car owner could, but maybe that's just age and inflexibility speaking.

 

Have you driven one? I was biased against the GT-R for various reasons, but then I drove one and respect was earned. I'm older than you, and I can see myself in a GT-R one day. Very different from any Porsche, but it has its appeal. And it's a great sleeper car for people who want to fly under the radar.

 

For me I think it's about brand and image. The thought of some 18 year old in a tuner Evo wanting to drag me at a light just isn't appealing. Not that the Porsche is immune to that...

Other than that, I just think I'd look silly in it in a suit.

 

I guess situations and desires vary on this. I don't care much about image (just want to live my life the best I can until the clock stops), and to the extent that I do care about image, my situation and my personality make me prefer keeping a low profile. Of course, the current Porsches don't serve that purpose well at all (especially the CR), but at least the wife and I can enjoy and appreciate the beauty of the cars.

 

I'm 39 and can't see myself in a GTR either. MAYBE as a 4th or 5th fun car but there are SO many other cars I'd rather own before parking that in my garage. It's a great car numbers wise but it's just too "automatic" for me.

As far as it being a sleeper, not sure where you live but around Atlanta there's nothing sleeper about a GTR. People stop what they're doing to check those things out

 

I could be wrong, but my sense is that only car enthusiasts would notice a GT-R around here. Now a white Cayman R with a fixed black rear wing and giant Porsche logo on each side is another story ... makes me feel very exposed, and thus that much riskier to engage in spirited driving.

 

I did drive one and it confirmed my dislike of it much more. I do respect its performance numbers but dislike its driving feel (brakes, tranny, seating position, steering, weight, turbo lag). The other things I dislike are just subjective, put it next to most other sports cars and you immediately notice how much more massive it is in every dimension.

 

I don't actually disagree. Today, I would still take a 997 or 991 over a GT-R for similar reasons. But the GT-R does have its appeal, and I can see eventually owning one for a while, when I'm in a mood to try something different.

 

I think a comparable test would be the GT2 RS vs the GTR not the 991 S

 

On performance yes, but certainly not on price. Even the 991S costs way more than the GT-R. And the GT-R would embarrass the base 991 on objective performance in terms of acceleration and lap times.

 

and throw purchase price out the window?

 

Kinda like the direction Porsche is taking...launch control, PTV, PDCC, advanced PDK, all options to make it easier to drive fast.