Day 2 with 991-S and it left me stranded!
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Maybe Silver?! I had a black one previously. I'm kind of worried as to how all this may affect my engine's break-in. I mean it's being started multiple times to diagnose the problem. They start it, it stutters, and stalls. While I was there today it was done easily 10-20 times. That can't be good for the break-in. What do you guys think?
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Maybe Silver?! I had a black one previously. I'm kind of worried as to how all this may affect my engine's break-in. I mean it's being started multiple times to diagnose the problem. They start it, it stutters, and stalls. While I was there today it was done easily 10-20 times. That can't be good for the break-in. What do you guys think?
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Miamiadjuster:
First let me say that I’m confident your problem will be fixed. To address your question however, I’m not sure what engineering organization you could get or what they would have to do to determine if this will cause an issue down the road or not. I went through this on a Honda with an issue that would have had similar test and analysis issues and I took it to an arbitrator and won. Your manual tells you exactly how to file such a claim. Usually you have to have the problem attempt to be solved 3 times and you have to have documentation. You had the issue and they said they fixed it so they have had their first chance. They closed out the work order when they gave you the car so that’s one. When (if) you get to two, I would ask in writing that the district technical representative be brought in and get the documentation showing what the factory engineers told the dealer technicians. On the third time, file. When you go to the arbitrator, build a case like you were making the case to a judge, and at the end, tell him what you want. It can be from a range of financial compensation for your expenses / frustration to buying back the car. It seems ominous, but it was not with me. By-the-way in most states if you win, the company has no recourse and if you lose you can take it to court under the lemon law. I hope you don't have any further issues with your car and that they find the definitive reason for the issue.
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First let me say that I’m confident your problem will be fixed. To address your question however, I’m not sure what engineering organization you could get or what they would have to do to determine if this will cause an issue down the road or not. I went through this on a Honda with an issue that would have had similar test and analysis issues and I took it to an arbitrator and won. Your manual tells you exactly how to file such a claim. Usually you have to have the problem attempt to be solved 3 times and you have to have documentation. You had the issue and they said they fixed it so they have had their first chance. They closed out the work order when they gave you the car so that’s one. When (if) you get to two, I would ask in writing that the district technical representative be brought in and get the documentation showing what the factory engineers told the dealer technicians. On the third time, file. When you go to the arbitrator, build a case like you were making the case to a judge, and at the end, tell him what you want. It can be from a range of financial compensation for your expenses / frustration to buying back the car. It seems ominous, but it was not with me. By-the-way in most states if you win, the company has no recourse and if you lose you can take it to court under the lemon law. I hope you don't have any further issues with your car and that they find the definitive reason for the issue.
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Miamiadjuster:
First let me say that I’m confident your problem will be fixed. To address your question however, I’m not sure what engineering organization you could get or what they would have to do to determine if this will cause an issue down the road or not. I went through this on a Honda with an issue that would have had similar test and analysis issues and I took it to an arbitrator and won. Your manual tells you exactly how to file such a claim. Usually you have to have the problem attempt to be solved 3 times and you have to have documentation. You had the issue and they said they fixed it so they have had their first chance. They closed out the work order when they gave you the car so that’s one. When (if) you get to two, I would ask in writing that the district technical representative be brought in and get the documentation showing what the factory engineers told the dealer technicians. On the third time, file. When you go to the arbitrator, build a case like you were making the case to a judge, and at the end, tell him what you want. It can be from a range of financial compensation for your expenses / frustration to buying back the car. It seems ominous, but it was not with me. By-the-way in most states if you win, the company has no recourse and if you lose you can take it to court under the lemon law. I hope you don't have any further issues with your car and that they find the definitive reason for the issue.
ChuckJ
First let me say that I’m confident your problem will be fixed. To address your question however, I’m not sure what engineering organization you could get or what they would have to do to determine if this will cause an issue down the road or not. I went through this on a Honda with an issue that would have had similar test and analysis issues and I took it to an arbitrator and won. Your manual tells you exactly how to file such a claim. Usually you have to have the problem attempt to be solved 3 times and you have to have documentation. You had the issue and they said they fixed it so they have had their first chance. They closed out the work order when they gave you the car so that’s one. When (if) you get to two, I would ask in writing that the district technical representative be brought in and get the documentation showing what the factory engineers told the dealer technicians. On the third time, file. When you go to the arbitrator, build a case like you were making the case to a judge, and at the end, tell him what you want. It can be from a range of financial compensation for your expenses / frustration to buying back the car. It seems ominous, but it was not with me. By-the-way in most states if you win, the company has no recourse and if you lose you can take it to court under the lemon law. I hope you don't have any further issues with your car and that they find the definitive reason for the issue.
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think the recall was a fuel line rubbing and creating a leak.
a injector dumping extra fuel in to the cylinder is not the same thing.also request a new work order for today, you need to build a case.
a injector dumping extra fuel in to the cylinder is not the same thing.also request a new work order for today, you need to build a case.
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Update
Tech pulled out spark plug for cylinder #1 and it was soaked in fuel. They were swapping out the injector this afternoon. Let's hope that solves the problem. Should get to back tomorrow!
Tech pulled out spark plug for cylinder #1 and it was soaked in fuel. They were swapping out the injector this afternoon. Let's hope that solves the problem. Should get to back tomorrow!
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Faulty injector. It may be hanging open during idle and flooding the #1 cylinder. Hence, the stall. Which also may explain the reason why it cleared out when they revved it the first time it happened.
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Porsche will take care of you without a problem. I had a vehicle replaced with a new one because they had to replace both front and back seats couple days later. First Porsche had to be the tough one.
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Also, let's hope that diluation of the oil by the gas did not cause any bearing or piston ring problems, especially the piston rings for the affected cylinder. Better than hoping, find a way to have these fears addressed professionally and either proven groundless or resolved with a new engine.
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Also, let's hope that diluation of the oil by the gas did not cause any bearing or piston ring problems, especially the piston rings for the affected cylinder. Better than hoping, find a way to have these fears addressed professionally and either proven groundless or resolved with a new engine.
I still can't wrap my head around this. INSANE!
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I think this is not a decision any of us would want to be making when receiving a brand new car!!!
I am so sorry for ya man...
I'm afraid I would probably want to get a new car if the engine would have to be replaced.