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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 03:56 AM
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Don't want to sound like a dork but is this not the same Timo Kluck that holds the 7:18 time (6 fastest I think) on a GT2 ?
Me thinks I like his driving style - gets the results. No ?

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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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Hot off da presses; the new turbo just clocked a 7:18 on the ring!
 
Old Oct 9, 2012 | 11:28 AM
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whow these times are getting so fast

what was faster on ring in 997, gt3 or tt?
 
Old Oct 9, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
Hot off da presses; the new turbo just clocked a 7:18 on the ring!
Link?

HA! It's about time Porsche stopped sandbagging the Turbo to keep it slower than the GT3.

Unless.......

The GT3 actually went faster, which would be absolutelyunfreakingbelievable for an NA GT car with 450 ish hp.
 
Old Oct 9, 2012 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fcar348
whow these times are getting so fast

what was faster on ring in 997, gt3 or tt?
Ring times will continue to get faster and faster. The cars are somewhat faster (mostly hp and more aggressive suspension tuning), but the tires they are using are WAY faster than yestertech, there are plenty of repaved sections of the track which in turn go faster and the efforts put into the times have increased due to more competition wanting the bragging rights to sell cars.
 

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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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It's in a thread over on rennlist, so far the tt is the fastest (except the 918 at 7:17).
 
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I want to believe that, but need something more concrete. I really hope it's true though. About time the turbo got some love from Porsche instead of being treated like a step child in the handling department.
 
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i saw another video today with a Base 3.4 991 turning a 7.48. IT had many of the performance options like pdk, sports plus, PASM, 20s and the stock Pirellis, etc but still... a Base car with factory options and "only" 350 bhp... That's crazy!!!
 
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
Hot off da presses; the new turbo just clocked a 7:18 on the ring!
Word on the street is the GTR that has been testing at the Ring recently turned in a similar time, maybe slightly lower
 
Old Oct 10, 2012 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Ring times will continue to get faster and faster. The cars are somewhat faster (mostly hp and more aggressive suspension tuning), but the tires they are using are WAY faster than yestertech, there are plenty of repaved sections of the track which in turn go faster and the efforts put into the times have increased due to more competition wanting the bragging rights to sell cars.
What are you seeing as far as the tires being used nowadays? Seems like the Sport Cup is fairly common for cars tested on the 'ring?
 
Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:43 AM
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What are you seeing as far as the tires being used nowadays? Seems like the Sport Cup is fairly common for cars tested on the 'ring?
Yeah, but most people are using real sport cups, not slow n-spec ones. Real cups are hella fast. Then there are sneaky tires with r comp level grip like on the gtr and zr1. They have high tread rating but have soft rubber as tested by pyrometer. And wheel sizes are wider and bigger allowing more contact patch and grip.

Some cars wear the sticky Pirelli tires as well.
 
Old Oct 10, 2012 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Yeah, but most people are using real sport cups, not slow n-spec ones. Real cups are hella fast. Then there are sneaky tires with r comp level grip like on the gtr and zr1. They have high tread rating but have soft rubber as tested by pyrometer. And wheel sizes are wider and bigger allowing more contact patch and grip.

Some cars wear the sticky Pirelli tires as well.
So does the N-spec have any benefit relative to the regular/real Sport Cup? I've been tracking the Cayman R a lot this season, so far using PS2 and AD08 street tires. For learning and convenience purposes, I'm inclined to stay with street tires as long as they don't have to be discarded prematurely due to getting torn up. The PS2s didn't last, but the AD08s are proving to be tough, with about the same grip. Wondering what to try next. In street tires, some options are Super Sports, RE-11, and Star Specs. If I go to R-comps and stay with the 19" wheels, options are limited, with Sport Cups being among them (though pricey).
 
Old Oct 10, 2012 | 08:50 AM
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Only marginally better in the wet, but neither are very good. But sacrifices a LOT of dry grip. I would not get N-spec Sport Cups if I were you. I'm pretty sure there are R888 in 19's. May want to try those if they have the right size for you. There are the best all around IMO (wet and dry grip) for RComps.

PSS have gotten much better reviews than PS2. RE-11's have great grip too.
 
Old Oct 10, 2012 | 09:06 AM
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Impressive times. This is proving to be a much faster line than the outgoing 997. I'm not going to hold my breath on those Turbo times, but they aren't unbelievable.

I skipped page two - any conspiracy theories about the use of PDK vs single clutch manual?

I missed the obligatory - 'yeah, but it's more fun to row your own gears and go slower' posts.
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Only marginally better in the wet, but neither are very good. But sacrifices a LOT of dry grip. I would not get N-spec Sport Cups if I were you. I'm pretty sure there are R888 in 19's. May want to try those if they have the right size for you. There are the best all around IMO (wet and dry grip) for RComps.

PSS have gotten much better reviews than PS2. RE-11's have great grip too.
I am running 19" 888's on my 991 and they perform great while being affordable. When it is too wet, I have spare set of PSS's that I can run on the track. Also have a set of PSS for daily driving and they are the best street tires I have had so far.
 



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