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Old 11-07-2012, 12:09 PM
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BrandonH
Only partially true on the mileage thing....theres a great deal of Ferrari owners that just simply enjoying having them and looking at them...and like having them as part of their "collection".

Then you have a another group that has a garage full of exotics and can only put so many miles on each car each year because that mileage is spread out over multiple vehicles....not because they are afraid to drive them.

Ferrari's hold there value better than any other modern day vehicle....by quite a margin.

It seems we are all in agreement that undoubtedly the Porsche comes with a much lower maintenance cost and higher reliability.

Jasper brings up a great point in regards to the GT versions and 918....if they price and position this car correctly it will definitely be a home run.
I agree with you on the various factors that impact 'low miles' F-car. But I think that is changing with some of the 458 and California. We are all in agreement 911 or any Porsche is not going to draw attention like 430, 458 etc, and in some area, 911 will not draw amy attention at all. I think that is the beauty of driving a 911.
 
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DoninDEN
Only partially right on the holding the value .

estimated:
1997 550 Maranello MSRP $222M current value $70M, (-68.5%)
1997 911 Turbo MSRP $105M current value $60M (-$42.8%)

Could you redo those numbers? But substitute:

1999 360 Modena
2000 911 Turbo
 
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Originally Posted by jaspergtr
Could you redo those numbers? But substitute:

1999 360 Modena
2000 911 Turbo
Must be a trick question as there wasn't a 2000 911 Turbo...

BUT... A same year 2001 comparison of the Modena to Porsche Turbo, with 15,000 miles is 144 to 75, -48% and 110 to 37, -66%. This illustrates the hit the 966 turbo had relative to any recent 911. Most would argue that it's pre993 chain drive block is a mechanically incredible car, but value is hit for aesthetics over substance. (Great buy for performance and reliability). Despite the Modena not being considered a aesthetically undesirable car, nominally, you would have lost the same with either, around $70M.

Is that what you were asking?
 
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Originally Posted by DoninDEN
Must be a trick question as there wasn't a 2000 911 Turbo...

BUT... A same year 2001 comparison of the Modena to Porsche Turbo, with 15,000 miles is 144 to 75, -48% and 110 to 37, -66%. This illustrates the hit the 966 turbo had relative to any recent 911. Most would argue that it's pre993 chain drive block is a mechanically incredible car, but value is hit for aesthetics over substance. (Great buy for performance and reliability). Despite the Modena not being considered a aesthetically undesirable car, nominally, you would have lost the same with either, around $70M.

Is that what you were asking?
Right. I forgot it was the 2001 that came out in 2000... It's been a while.

But, yes - that was the gist.

Statistics, right?

There is always a figure supporting your claims...
 
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[QUOTE=Zeus;3681067]I would love to see a car slotted between the GT2RS and the 918, but...


And why would anyone buy a 918 at nearly 3 times the price? They kinda look the same too...and for a half-million after some nice options...does it really look like a half-million dollar car?


Why? Because you can! And you would be the only kid on your block.
 
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