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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 07:59 AM
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Corvettes don't have a torsion bar suspension. It is a composite, transverse mounted leaf spring in lieu of a traditional coil spring. Most consider that a detriment to handling. It also has packaging and weight advantages.
 

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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by handfull
Don't forget it wasn't just the tires. The magnetic ride suspension and performance traction management in conjunction with the Michelin cup tires turned the Z06 Z07 into a track beast.
I had a '07 Z06 without the Z07 package (it wasn't offered) and it was a handful. Why you would of thought you were driving a 70's 911 the way the rear end would engage in a fist fight with the front end to determine who would go through the corner first.
Oh, you're right... I was just having fun with the C6/C6Z06/C6Z06wZ07/C7/C7Z06/07, etc...

Couldn't stop laughing...

Only an owner (or other 'Vette enthusiast) would have no problem with everything I typed.
Originally Posted by Deuuuce
Corvettes don't have a torsion bar suspension. It is a composite, transverse mounted leaf spring in lieu of a traditional coil spring. Most consider that a detriment to handling. It also has packaging and weight advantages.
Those who say the leaf springs and weight distribution (engine placement) negatively impact handling, are often in the same camp of the engine placement of the 911.

Both constructors have proven that if you put enough R&D into something, you can make it almost as good as theoretically ideal, instead of just starting over with the theoretically ideal, and making it even better through R&D.
 
Old Sep 20, 2013 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by drspeed

The vettes, in general, have way too much torque for the chassis, flex a lot under hard acceleration (coupes), skip across rough pavement in corners (torsion bar suspension)[although the skinier tires on the C6 helped reduce this]
Where do you buy the Corvettes with the torsion bar suspension?
 
Old Sep 20, 2013 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TOPorschefan
I would not try to educate jaspergtr he likes to troll the 991 forums. Maybe in his heart of heart he regrets the GTR purchase.........
This comment is so far off base its laughable. Jasper is one guy here who is i as unbiased an owner as we have. He loves his GTR but gives respect to all cars and his knowledge is excellent. I suggest you search and read some of his other posts before you post anything like what you did above.
As for the subject at hand the new vette is a bargain as usual and the 991 is a better all around car IMO but you pay for it. To me its really that simple.
 
Old Sep 20, 2013 | 10:10 AM
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I'd gladly trade my 991 for a '67 L88
 
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I'd gladly trade my 991 for a '67 L88
I bet so, but bring your AmEx Card with you!
 
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Owned 2 C6 Z06 (one w PS1) before my GTR A10 and I was in love with them, very cheap to modified vs the GTR LOL
I hope this new C7 Z07 comes with a very good "Bang for the Buck"

Until then the 991 is the #1 choice
 
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 07:18 AM
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Thanks for posting this. I think fairly objective tests and comments seemed fair by both lago and pobst.
 
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Originally Posted by Suzy991
Wow, $151,000 for a C4S?
 
Old Sep 25, 2013 | 09:58 AM
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Must be pretty optioned out. I priced a 991GT 3 for 137k with nose lift and auto dimming mirrors. FWIW
 
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Regarding Suzy's youtube post - I had to stop... When the guy was going on and on about the emotional gratifying sensation from driving the Ferrari, I had to stop.

He couldn't get past the Ferrari badge.

This hurts, because I wanted to watch the rest of the review, I'm the biggest Ferrari fanboy in here (probably), and the F12 is currently my favorite car, but this sort of bias does not help the reviewer's credibility (with me).
 
Old Sep 25, 2013 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GS997S
Wow, $151,000 for a C4S?
Would be a dream to get one for that price! Mine is $235k... Baseprice is $164k for the C4S (although that is incl. 8% VAT)

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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jaspergtr
Regarding Suzy's youtube post - I had to stop... When the guy was going on and on about the emotional gratifying sensation from driving the Ferrari, I had to stop. He couldn't get past the Ferrari badge. This hurts, because I wanted to watch the rest of the review, I'm the biggest Ferrari fanboy in here (probably), and the F12 is currently my favorite car, but this sort of bias does not help the reviewer's credibility (with me).
You can watch untill the end Jasper... No problem. They do that with all three the cars. It's in fact something I notice with a lot of American reviewers I watch on youtube. They often seem to be extremely enthusiast, but in the end the conclusions are pretty fair though.
Ow and FYI... The F12 does not win

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Originally Posted by Suzy991
You can watch untill the end Jasper... No problem. They do that with all three the cars. It's in fact something I notice with a lot of American reviewers I watch on youtube. They often seem to be extremely enthusiast, but in the end the conclusions are pretty fair though.
Ow and FYI... The F12 does not win

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Thanks! I'll give it a shot later (after work).

But if the F12 doesn't win - it's hogwash anyway.
 


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