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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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Can the tach face be changed?

Spoke with my Porsche service tech and he wasn't sure they could change the tach face to black from the factory gray. Is this a Porsche parts change or only aftermarket? Has anyone done this yet? Interested to hear.
 
Old Nov 17, 2013 | 04:34 PM
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Black would be better.
Do any cars come with a black tach?
 
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My 991 came with a black tach;

 
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I would not be surprised if they only sell it as an entire gauge cluster unfortunately.

I spec'd mine to be all black.
 
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Black would be better. Do any cars come with a black tach?
Mine does !
 
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The tach comes standard in alum look unless you order the black as a no charge option. I didn't know that when I ordered my car. I think it looks terrible when all the other dials are black so I've been trying to do the same thing. My dealer said he could get me the black face through Porsche Exclusive and that he had an excellent vendor to open the instrument cluster and do the swap, all for under about $300. That was about 3 months ago. Every time I question my dealer about the status he says don't worry, Porsche Exclusive is slow but it will show up. At this rate my lease will be up by the time the tach shows up.
If anyone has a better way to do this, I'm all ears.
 
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The tach comes standard in alum look unless you order the black as a no charge option. I didn't know that when I ordered my car. I think it looks terrible when all the other dials are black so I've been trying to do the same thing. My dealer said he could get me the black face through Porsche Exclusive and that he had an excellent vendor to open the instrument cluster and do the swap, all for under about $300. That was about 3 months ago. Every time I question my dealer about the status he says don't worry, Porsche Exclusive is slow but it will show up. At this rate my lease will be up by the time the tach shows up.
If anyone has a better way to do this, I'm all ears.
I checked the codes;
I022 = Black-coloured Instrument dials, Instrument cluster.
I023 = Silver-coloured Instrument dials, Instrument cluster.

I got I023, but only the tach is silver, all other gauges are black.
So that option description is misleading.

If you have a way to get the tach changed for $300, I am all ears.
I checked, and a new I022 cluster [99164114613A05] is $2500
So $300 sounds like a deal.
You mind asking your dealer to order some extras
 
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C2 tach comes in black. C2S tach comes standard with silver/grey.
 
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No I went through this when putting together my build. Suzy finely straightened me out...

If you do nothing gauges are black with the silvery/grey tach... This is for the both c2 and c2s and I believe for the c4s as well..

Gauges in black option which is $0 option makes the tach black like rest of gauges..

Or you can pick white, yellow or red for all gauges Which is about an $800 option.. Another $500 for the sport chrono.

No diff between s's and non s's
 
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No I went through this when putting together my build. Suzy finely straightened me out...

If you do nothing gauges are black with the silvery/grey tach... This is for the both c2 and c2s and I believe for the c4s as well..

Gauges in black option which is $0 option makes the tach black like rest of gauges..

Or you can pick white, yellow or red for all gauges Which is about an $800 option.. Another $500 for the sport chrono.

No diff between s's and non s's
The silver/grey tach face only comes standard on the S. The regular base 991 tach face is black. Check with your dealer. There was a thread a while back from S owners regretting not getting the black tach as the silver face is hard to read in most conditions and C2 owners not having this issue bc their techs come in black as standard.

Check the configurator ****pit view between the S and base.

Also below from the comparison between the instruments of the S versus base 991:


Base - Integral cluster of 5 round instruments
S - Integral cluster of 5 round instruments


Base - Analog gauges for revs, speed, oil temperature, coolant temperature and fuel level
S - Analog gauges for revs, speed, oil temperature, coolant temperature and fuel level


Base - Central rev counter and high-resolution 4.6-inch TFT color display with trip computer functions vehicle settings menu and navigation radio and telephone display, illuminated in white
S - Central rev counter and high-resolution 4.6-inch TFT color display with trip computer functions vehicle settings menu and navigation radio and telephone display, illuminated in white


Base - Instrument dials incl. rev counter in black
S - Instrument dials in black and silver-colored rev counter


Base - Gear indicator in rev counter
S - Gear indicator in rev counter
 

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I can't stand the silver tach on my S. What were they thinking?
 
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Suncoast selles gauge face in various colors (black is not listed, but I am sure they could help): http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...iorAccessories

I have already taken the instrument cluster apart and, if you are really cautious, it is feasible as a DIY (I did not document it, but started from a 997 DIY and the 991 is not very different).
 
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Yep you are right the silver/grey is only standard on the S..

I'm not sure I've heard too many people ever express a preference for the silver/grey.. But I guess it must have some popularity since it is standard on the S...

Originally Posted by DBYT
The silver/grey tach face only comes standard on the S. The regular base 991 tach face is black. Check with your dealer. There was a thread a while back from S owners regretting not getting the black tach as the silver face is hard to read in most conditions and C2 owners not having this issue bc their techs come in black as standard.

Check the configurator ****pit view between the S and base.

Also below from the comparison between the instruments of the S versus base 991:


Base - Integral cluster of 5 round instruments
S - Integral cluster of 5 round instruments


Base - Analog gauges for revs, speed, oil temperature, coolant temperature and fuel level
S - Analog gauges for revs, speed, oil temperature, coolant temperature and fuel level


Base - Central rev counter and high-resolution 4.6-inch TFT color display with trip computer functions vehicle settings menu and navigation radio and telephone display, illuminated in white
S - Central rev counter and high-resolution 4.6-inch TFT color display with trip computer functions vehicle settings menu and navigation radio and telephone display, illuminated in white


Base - Instrument dials incl. rev counter in black
S - Instrument dials in black and silver-colored rev counter


Base - Gear indicator in rev counter
S - Gear indicator in rev counter
 
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This is really interesting..

I debated white vs black faces... and ended up going with black.. but for some reason I wish I had gone white.. At the time $860 for the white and then another $500 for white for the chrono just seemed... more than I wanted to spend on that...

So how difficult is taking the instrument cluster apart.. For someone who is indeed mechanically inclined.. does it come apart without inherently goober-ing it up?



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Suncoast selles gauge face in various colors (black is not listed, but I am sure they could help): http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...iorAccessories

I have already taken the instrument cluster apart and, if you are really cautious, it is feasible as a DIY (I did not document it, but started from a 997 DIY and the 991 is not very different).
 
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So how difficult is taking the instrument cluster apart.. For someone who is indeed mechanically inclined.. does it come apart without inherently goober-ing it up?
Here's a DIY for removing the instrument cluster on a 997. The process is almost 100% identical on the 991: http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...ml#post5806269

This thread can also help once the instrument cluster is removed: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ials-help.html

It is all a matter of patience. If you are careful and never use brute force, it is not too complicated.
 


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