Would you drive your 991 in the winter?
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i drive 991 c4s cab every day. we had one of the worst winters in history in NJ. my c4s cab was a joy to drive every day. it was amazing in the snow. i ran the stock wheels with a set of 20 winter pirellis. the tires recommended by porsche.
i drove in two-three inches of snow and on many snow covered roads. the traction is amazing. i was passing SUVs. watching the display that shows how much power is going to the front and the rear wheels was fun and surprising. most of the time 100% of the power stayed at the rear wheels, even on roads covered in snow and slush.
i also went to the porshe winter driving event at sugarbush vermont this year. we drove right up the ski slopes in C4s 911s with the same winter tires. they had covered the slope in 400,000 gallons of water to freeze it over so the cars wouldn't sink in the snow. we went right up, i was AMAZED, up the slope in 1st gear hitting 35mph on ice.
i drive my car every day, enjoy it all the time, feel 100% confident / safe in the inclement weather and enjoy it year round. i used to keep my cars tucked away in the winter, not any more. i don't plan on owning this car in 25 years, its not a show car, so i drive it and enjoy. i recommend everyone do the same.
i drove in two-three inches of snow and on many snow covered roads. the traction is amazing. i was passing SUVs. watching the display that shows how much power is going to the front and the rear wheels was fun and surprising. most of the time 100% of the power stayed at the rear wheels, even on roads covered in snow and slush.
i also went to the porshe winter driving event at sugarbush vermont this year. we drove right up the ski slopes in C4s 911s with the same winter tires. they had covered the slope in 400,000 gallons of water to freeze it over so the cars wouldn't sink in the snow. we went right up, i was AMAZED, up the slope in 1st gear hitting 35mph on ice.
i drive my car every day, enjoy it all the time, feel 100% confident / safe in the inclement weather and enjoy it year round. i used to keep my cars tucked away in the winter, not any more. i don't plan on owning this car in 25 years, its not a show car, so i drive it and enjoy. i recommend everyone do the same.
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I have been arguing this one with my wife! (non car person) for the $5000 it costs to buy the set of snows, I can buy a dependable commuter car for the harsh winter months and preserve the Porsche. If I had leased the car then I probably wouldn't care but I purchased this one and it's got to last a while.
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i drive 991 c4s cab every day. we had one of the worst winters in history in NJ. my c4s cab was a joy to drive every day. it was amazing in the snow. i ran the stock wheels with a set of 20 winter pirellis. the tires recommended by porsche.
i drove in two-three inches of snow and on many snow covered roads. the traction is amazing. i was passing SUVs. watching the display that shows how much power is going to the front and the rear wheels was fun and surprising. most of the time 100% of the power stayed at the rear wheels, even on roads covered in snow and slush.
i also went to the porshe winter driving event at sugarbush vermont this year. we drove right up the ski slopes in C4s 911s with the same winter tires. they had covered the slope in 400,000 gallons of water to freeze it over so the cars wouldn't sink in the snow. we went right up, i was AMAZED, up the slope in 1st gear hitting 35mph on ice.
i drive my car every day, enjoy it all the time, feel 100% confident / safe in the inclement weather and enjoy it year round. i used to keep my cars tucked away in the winter, not any more. i don't plan on owning this car in 25 years, its not a show car, so i drive it and enjoy. i recommend everyone do the same.
i drove in two-three inches of snow and on many snow covered roads. the traction is amazing. i was passing SUVs. watching the display that shows how much power is going to the front and the rear wheels was fun and surprising. most of the time 100% of the power stayed at the rear wheels, even on roads covered in snow and slush.
i also went to the porshe winter driving event at sugarbush vermont this year. we drove right up the ski slopes in C4s 911s with the same winter tires. they had covered the slope in 400,000 gallons of water to freeze it over so the cars wouldn't sink in the snow. we went right up, i was AMAZED, up the slope in 1st gear hitting 35mph on ice.
i drive my car every day, enjoy it all the time, feel 100% confident / safe in the inclement weather and enjoy it year round. i used to keep my cars tucked away in the winter, not any more. i don't plan on owning this car in 25 years, its not a show car, so i drive it and enjoy. i recommend everyone do the same.
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First of all, recognize that the 991, amazing car as it is, is in no way a future collectible. Hand in hand with that, the car depreciates every year, whether you drive it or not.
This is 2014: the industry figured out rustproofing 30 years ago. The motor and transmission have a finite life that you will reach well before your have corrosion issues.
My advice is get a set of winter wheels and drive it. I daily drive mine in all conditions, ice, slush etc. and with the winter tires I have better control that an SUV on all-seasons.
First of all, recognize that the 991, amazing car as it is, is in no way a future collectible. Hand in hand with that, the car depreciates every year, whether you drive it or not.
This is 2014: the industry figured out rustproofing 30 years ago. The motor and transmission have a finite life that you will reach well before your have corrosion issues.
My advice is get a set of winter wheels and drive it. I daily drive mine in all conditions, ice, slush etc. and with the winter tires I have better control that an SUV on all-seasons.
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I have been arguing this one with my wife! (non car person) for the $5000 it costs to buy the set of snows, I can buy a dependable commuter car for the harsh winter months and preserve the Porsche. If I had leased the car then I probably wouldn't care but I purchased this one and it's got to last a while.
With the winter tires, the C2 is a very usable winter car. Just the same, if I buy another Porsche in the future, it will probably be a C4. Like with many things, with traction, more is always better.
As for winter corrosion and finish damage, my only previous Porsche was a 1987 944S used year round in northeastern PA. There were no visible negative effects after 7 years of winter use.
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I commute 60 miles a day from North Jersey to Jersey City myself. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend doing the same to someone else provided you're running the winter tires. It's a great car and getting to drive it every day is that much more fun. Buy some winter rubber and enjoy it
And my car looks amazing a coat of sealant and wax and the car still looks like new. Rock chips I get from driving spring summer fall do way more damage than anything I incurred in the winter
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thank you all very much for this discussion. I'm waiting until Dec or close to it to make the decision. I guess having the worst winter ever last year freaked me out. That combined with being a clean freak and picturing my black beauty covered in winter salt! Just the thought made me cringe!
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don't wait until Dec to get cold weather tires. our temps in NJ mean we need to lose the summer tires earlier. I usually put on the winter tires late October - Last week of March.
i too am a clean freak, i detail my own cars. in the winter i pull out of the garage, wash the major stuff off and do the wheels and then into the garage for a complete wash / dry. this winter there were a couple of weeks where the salt was bad, but still preferred being able to drive it dirty vs sitting clean.
i too am a clean freak, i detail my own cars. in the winter i pull out of the garage, wash the major stuff off and do the wheels and then into the garage for a complete wash / dry. this winter there were a couple of weeks where the salt was bad, but still preferred being able to drive it dirty vs sitting clean.
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I just understand the thought of not driving it all the time. When was the last time you saw a car with rust? Drive ‘em. Clean ‘em. Drive them some more.
Owning a Porsche and not driving it just because it is cold or snowing is like dating a supermodel and not wanting to have sex with him/her just because they are having a bad hair day.
Marc
Owning a Porsche and not driving it just because it is cold or snowing is like dating a supermodel and not wanting to have sex with him/her just because they are having a bad hair day.
Marc
I just understand the thought of not driving it all the time. When was the last time you saw a car with rust? Drive ‘em. Clean ‘em. Drive them some more. Owning a Porsche and not driving it just because it is cold or snowing is like dating a supermodel and not wanting to have sex with him/her just because they are having a bad hair day. Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ls_rXhr71s Marc
Much better when taken care of! : )
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While in for service on Friday, my Porsche mechanic was working on a 2010 with only 2,000 miles. He said that cars like that the "Garage Queens" are the ones he usually sees that end up with leaks and other issues from low usage. Cars are made to be driven regularly not just in fair weather. The more you drive them the longer they last.
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