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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by C-MAN67
Any actual experiences out there?
Experience with what? PDK or manual? Or either?

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Your amusing comment has encouraged me to respond.

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Guys, guys, don't be haters. If you're annoyed by a post, just ignore it. No need to be disrespectful.
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I suggest that if you enjoy the experience of driving a car with a manual transmission, then that's what you should get. The only advantage to the PDK is if you live somewhere that has such horrendous traffic that you can't stand it, in which case you should be driving a Lexus anyway. I'm thinking LA, Chicago, D.C., etc.

And ignore the haters.
 
Old Feb 9, 2015 | 08:30 AM
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Oh, forgot to say: I did DD my car for several months, and it was no hardship at all. And it has the correct transmission.
 
Old Feb 9, 2015 | 08:42 AM
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It is true that things have gotten stale here, but that will change when the 991.2 is introduced. As far as the pdk goes i do think that there are certain advantages with that setup if you are buying used. I use the auto mode when driving in town and manual shift when not in traffic. Sadly most of the time it is in auto.
 
Old Feb 9, 2015 | 09:04 AM
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The pdk is better in traffic, the manual is more fun, the pdk (with sport chrono) is better on the track. There are no losers.
 
Old Feb 9, 2015 | 11:31 AM
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What a great microcosm of our internet society. I'm a guy in my mid-fifties who has been in technology businesses since the 80s. The information revolution is the industrial revolution of our generations. An unfortunate side-effect is the societal rudeness that has developed from people who feel compelled to type any random thought - regardless of whether they'd make the same comment out loud. There was an ancient adage (I know because I'm ancient) - If you can't say something nice . . .


To the OP - I live a city and do a lot of stop and go. But I've been driving MTs for 35+ years and for me, the clutch pedal is as natural as the brake pedal. It's part of my driving experience and my driving pleasure. As a tech guy, I love PDKs. As a driver, I love MTs. I think that all the posts on this topic prove that there's just no one, correct answer. In this case, it may be that there are two really good answers!
 
Old Feb 9, 2015 | 12:41 PM
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I think Herr Prunniger summed it all up about perfectly when the GT3 was introduced, and again when the GT4 was introduced.
 
Old Feb 9, 2015 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hinckley
What a great microcosm of our internet society. I'm a guy in my mid-fifties who has been in technology businesses since the 80s. The information revolution is the industrial revolution of our generations. An unfortunate side-effect is the societal rudeness that has developed from people who feel compelled to type any random thought - regardless of whether they'd make the same comment out loud. There was an ancient adage (I know because I'm ancient) - If you can't say something nice . . .


To the OP - I live a city and do a lot of stop and go. But I've been driving MTs for 35+ years and for me, the clutch pedal is as natural as the brake pedal. It's part of my driving experience and my driving pleasure. As a tech guy, I love PDKs. As a driver, I love MTs. I think that all the posts on this topic prove that there's just no one, correct answer. In this case, it may be that there are two really good answers!
Thanks so very much for your answer!!! I was actually somewhat amused by some of the negative comments. REALLY?!!!! This is a voluntary site who forced them to read the post and respond? Give me a break. I would argue that there are a lot of subjects that have been beaten to death but we all still enjoy a good debate and discussion on these great machines.
 
Old Feb 9, 2015 | 01:38 PM
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Just think even if you are in traffic you can get more exercise and burn calories with a manual.
 
Old Feb 9, 2015 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutintib
Those that have expressed some mild irritation here are the same people who would have (and have) provided a lot of useful info and perspectives in other postings.

I don't think the issue is being intimidating to a newbie. Newbies should be (and are) always welcome...we were all newbies at one time. The issue is clutter and retreading well-worn topics on a targeted forum board. I guess we express some irritation because we value this board...

This is the internet. You SEARCH to find info on the internet. Basic common sense. The OP knew enough to find this board and the 991 section... he has been here since 2011 and has 116 posts...
I can assure you that you don't value this site anymore than I do. There are plenty of subjects on this site that is beat to death everyday. What is old and worn out to one person may not be the same to someone else. Plus, we don't want anyone to feel as if their post should pass an "interesting enough" test. Just post what you will and if people don't like it or find it interesting just don't participate.

I enjoy reading them all. I pick up something new every night and I love everybody's post.
 
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I can assure you that you don't value this site anymore than I do. There are plenty of subjects on this site that is beat to death everyday. What is old and worn out to one person may not be the same to someone else. Plus, we don't want anyone to feel as if their post should pass an "interesting enough" test. Just post what you will and if people don't like it or find it interesting just don't participate.

I enjoy reading them all. I pick up something new every night and I love everybody's post.
+1 I could not agree more.
 
Old Feb 9, 2015 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hinckley
What a great microcosm of our internet society. I'm a guy in my mid-fifties who has been in technology businesses since the 80s. The information revolution is the industrial revolution of our generations. An unfortunate side-effect is the societal rudeness that has developed from people who feel compelled to type any random thought - regardless of whether they'd make the same comment out loud. There was an ancient adage (I know because I'm ancient) - If you can't say something nice . . .


To the OP - I live a city and do a lot of stop and go. But I've been driving MTs for 35+ years and for me, the clutch pedal is as natural as the brake pedal. It's part of my driving experience and my driving pleasure. As a tech guy, I love PDKs. As a driver, I love MTs. I think that all the posts on this topic prove that there's just no one, correct answer. In this case, it may be that there are two really good answers!
Very nicely said. I also agree on the MT & PDK comments.
 
Old Feb 10, 2015 | 02:03 PM
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It's interesting that there is actually some very useful info in this thread amongst the less useful content... here is my viewpoint...
I ENJOY MT... whilst I APPRECIATE & ENJOY PDK...
My car is a DD so I went for PDK.... I never miss the MT... ever.... But if I drove this car for only 60 minutes a week then I might be telling a different story...
This is the first DSG car I've owned (of many) where I've instinctively used the manual overrides frequently due to the heightened experience it offers. The implementation of the 991 unit is exceptional and offers both control and ease in equal measure as required.... That is truly different from other dual clutch experiences I've had where I simple left the lever/paddles alone....
 
Old Feb 12, 2015 | 11:00 AM
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Don't hate me because I'm just catching up. I live in the Boston environs one of those aforementioned traffic hell holes. I drive my '12 991S PDK occasionally on public roads where its utility is obvious but mostly own for HPDE use where the PDK is a revelation to a geezer such as I who took up track events in my late 50's. Sports+ does 95%+ of everything better than a human such as I but as my skills have improved I find the 4/3 3/2 shifts at the end of long straights are a fraction of a second late so I handle those with the paddles and it has done wonders for brake pad wear. I have an old manually shifted muscle car to work out my left leg and the only way I would own a manual 911 is if I lived in East Bumf***. It is a personal choice but with the addition of rev match to the manuals in '13 I don't think you can wrong either way. No tears, its still a Porsche so how bad is that.
 
Old Feb 12, 2015 | 07:43 PM
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I'm in Dallas, where tailgating is an art form, and my PDK 991 is my DD. Just called my guy at Park place to see if he can me a MT. I miss shifting, I know, its weird. The PDK is great...too great. I feel disconnected with the car. Keep in mind, though I was air cooled for decades, so a water pump wigged me out at first, too. Anyway, drive both, you'll know. Best of luck!
 
Old Feb 13, 2015 | 05:51 AM
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For me, PDK is "the novelty" and adds an interesting new twist to 911 driving that I've not experienced before. I'm ordering a GTS tomorrow and I'm checking the "auto" box for the first time in my life on a "fun car."


But truth be told, if I didn't have another 6M vehicle that will split DD duties with the 911, I would be going 7M with this GTS.


As it is, my current Turbo and my Wrangler have such different gearboxes and clutch takeups that I wind up nearly stalling each of them for 10 minutes when I first get in it after driving the other one. The PDK will make that point fairly moot. Except I find that everytime I test drive one I keep stabbing the floorboard with my left foot when I come up to a light.
 
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