Will the value of the Naturally Aspirated 2016 991.1 hold markedly better value over time than the newer Turbo Assisted 2017 991.2?

Thanks in advance.


Murray

 

To know the answer requires some kind of crystal ball.

While a Turbo may sell for more money used it obviously cost more money new.

And the economy plays a role.

(Back in June 2009 I bought a pristine low miles (~10K) 996 Turbo for less than half its sticker price (of $119K). That was some depreciation. But the market for Porsches was way down. A few months before buying the Turbo I picked up a new 2008 Cayman S for $50.6K marked down from $62.6K and got a slightly better trade-in allowance for my used car.)

The two cars differ considerably: NA vs. turbo-charged; and I would hope your decision is based more on just the guess as to the amount of depreciation.

If depreciation is a concern buy the least expensive of the two examples. There is less value to depreciate.

Regardless of which car you buy, take good care of the car and document this care.

Leave the car stock.

Enjoy the car.

When it comes time to sell, if you decide to sell, you have done all that is within your power to mimimize depreciation.

 

Actually, I am not asking about a comparison involving the "911 Turbo"
- but the 2016 Naturally Aspirated 991.1 vs. the 2017 Turbo Assisted 991.2.

Thanks,


Murray

 

This is a difficult question to answer, however I purchased my 991.1 C2S frantically back in Feb of this year knowing that the 991.2 was coming out because I knew that 2016 was going to be the last of the NA 3.8L in the C2S. Because it was a few months before 991.2's launch there was a huge demand for the 991.1 3.8L. I was lucky enough to find the last 991.1 C2S in California in the color and option that I wanted, but it was a difficult find and I had to jump on it as several others were in line and my deposit only held it for 14 days. In short, it depends on the supply and demand. I'm sure there are going to be plenty of demand for the 991.1 CPO, however if there aren't too many being sold that will definitely drive prices up. In the immediate future I don't anticipate the 991.1's depreciation to be different from the 991.2's, however, in the long run (say 10-15 years from now) I have a hunch that the 991.1 will be in demand as it is the last of a dying breed. Either way, both 991.1 and 991.2 are great cars.

 

That is exactly the depreciation/value comparison issue I am thinking about in the long run.

From what you said about how hard it was to find your desired color/options in Feb., I may not have much to choose from today in the way of a 2016 991.1

 

If history is any indication, there is no reason to think so for similar models with similar equipment, all other things being equivalent for the buyer.

Sound or performance differences may float different boats, but they are far more alike than different.

 

I was reading about the big value difference between the older air cooled engines as opposed to the newer water cooled one.

The demand/prices for the older air cooled engines is much greater.


Murray

 

Unless you are a collector, want to hold on to the car for several years, keep the mileage very low so you can't really enjoy it except for staring at it, who cares. Just get what you will really enjoy and want, learn its limits, and drive it like you stole it. How many of us on this or the other forum are really going to keep the cars that long to worry about it.

Way to much analyzing going on about a generation change on a car.

 

Get whichever fits into your budget, I hate the idea of paying over 3~5 years on a depreciating asset. No more than 24 car payments for me... and that lead me to buy a CPO 991.1 C2S

Love the sound, and the car is plenty fast, if I wanted a really fast car, I would've gone for a Viper or a Z06 but I'm not old enough to buy a middle-life crisis car

And the best part? Saved me $65K+

 

My reading comprehension... sigh.

The 2017 Turbo assisted 991.2 is an unknown at this time. If -- just saying -- if it proves to be a crummy car then depreciation will be huge.

Thus I think waiting a year or so to see how the new model fares in the market place and how it fares on the road is perhaps something to consider.

 

I'm thinking there's a lot more head pressure in the 991.2 as it gets more power with less cubes than the 991.1. And with torque coming in at a lower RPM, the gearing will take more tooth bending and general wear--- unless Porsche made the necessary engineering changes. Time will tell so I'm not likely to trade mine for several more years since I love my 991.1.

ChuckJ

 

I like to periodically check my dealer's website for used 911s just to get an idea of the market (they are in Northern Virginia). Right now, there appear to be good deals on '13 and '14 991s. I am assuming that these are coming off-lease.

 

read this: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ets-girly.html

from my brother

 

forgive me for saying this, but IMHO you're solving for the wrong variable. future value is the worst variable one could choose to pivot on. if for no other reason than when you're gone, your wife and kids will sell your prized collection of cars/bikes as a lot to the highest bidder or to the "best home" simply because no one will have the same passion as you do. you see it all the time. "estate sale".

i suggest you pivot on joy of ownership and any 911 will bring you that joy, no matter the year or spec. so how to select the right one?

before selecting my 991.1 i was torn between a 996 turbo or 997. i eventually turned to a friend who's family owns a dozen porsches. from 356s to 911's to race cars. this was the advice i was given.

"there is always a more expensive porsche, there is always a faster porsche, just buy the newest porsche you can afford and enjoy it."

this is the advice i followed, this is the advice i now give. it is a simple recipe that throws out all the drama and hand wringing that often surrounds 911 owners. speculation is for professionals collectors and sucks all the joy out of driving. i would hate to be the guy who heads out on sunday and says to himself, ok, only 50 miles today, don't want to put too much depreciation on my cars future value. the very idea of that thought pattern is soul sucking to me.

to prove my point, i have 35k miles on my 2013 991 and could care less what it will be worth in the future. i didn't by my 911 because i was concerned about the price or future value (those are side benifits of a 911), i bought my 911 to drive the best sports car on the planet every single day i can.

road trips - check
grocery runs - check
impress first dates - check
car events - check
long weekends - check
weekend sprints - check
daily commute - check

and i can ensure you no one is having more fun than me. damn KBB, my moto is - thrills have no odometer!

btw the KBB on my car is $65k with current mileage and options. a low miles example is $69k. all the drama for $4K? i don't get it. just enjoy.