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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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I just placed a brand new P box for sale under automotive parts. If anyone is interested.

Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
Yep.

Not that hard to believe if you really think about it. Car and Driver ran a 3.4 0-60 on stock tires and ended up with a 11.8 @ 125 on that run....and also a 3.5 during a 11.7 @ 123 run. GM specs is 3.5 0-60 and 11.5 @ 127. You're beating all of those 1/4 mile E.T.s' by at least 6/10ths of a second. Makes sense that your 0-60 is 4/10's quicker as well. Info here: http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/c6/2006/z06/2006z06perf.html

With your 1.77 60' time and 10.98 run, a 3.1 makes perfect sense.

Easiest thing to do is buy a P-box and get some 60-130s with it. I think you'll end up really liking the thing. http://store.vboxusa.com/servlet/Detail?no=2
 
Old Jan 29, 2009 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
A few of us local guys are pitching in and getting a Vbox for all of us to use. I'll let you know when we get it and you can use it. Maybe we can talk MIR into letting us do a 60-130mph testing day where we begin our runs pre-staging area for the slower cars (i.e. me)

There is a calculator that calculates yoru 0-60mph time based on your 60'. There is an even more accurate calculator that bases it off of the different breakdowns in the 1/4 mile. I can try to dig it up if you want.
Ahmad that would be awesome! I am looking forward to getting to the track, but I wouldn't even mention it to Jason as he might say no, just hold it down until you hit 130 and see what happens.
 
Old Jan 29, 2009 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by luva966tt
After reading this thread on the z06 I had to go down and actually test drive one. I had one back in the 90's and they did make big improvements. My first impression was WOW, But by the time I came back to the dealer it was a mediocre yeaa. It just seemed ordinary, thier just seem to be alot of them around. Its hard to distingush them from the regular c6's which I also test drove and came away feeling blaa. Maybe im prejudice but the quality just didn't seem to be there. Driving away in the p-car which is now 8yrs old I knew I made the right choice. I still feel giddy driving it. Ive never raced a tuned z06 but have no problem with the stock ones. Turbos are just awesome
I think you must be predudice as I have a 2002 GT2 that I bought brand new and I really like a lot but I don't find it to be superior to the Z06 by some great margin, a nicer interior slightly but performance wise stock to stock the Z06 would annilihate the Porsche and most modified ones as well. They do look similar to regular C6's to the same extent that the TT's look like the regular C2's to the average Joe Blow.
 
Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:48 AM
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Exageration

Originally Posted by jamie furman
I think you must be predudice as I have a 2002 GT2 that I bought brand new and I really like a lot but I don't find it to be superior to the Z06 by some great margin, a nicer interior slightly but performance wise stock to stock the Z06 would annilihate the Porsche and most modified ones as well. They do look similar to regular C6's to the same extent that the TT's look like the regular C2's to the average Joe Blow.
Jamie,

With all due respect, you have incredible choice in cars and are one
of the best amatuer drag racers in the country...but a stock C6 Z06
is not going to "annilihate" a stock GT2.
One my best friends (Atomic Z) has a highly modified C6 Z06 and a stock
one ("427 Edition"). They are spectacular cars in both performance and comfort and one of the true values in the Auto world.
What now makes things more interesting is that the 996 TT's can now be
had for $40K; throw another $20K at them (motor mods, suspension and brakes) and you really have a super car with a cool interior
If I had lots of money, I also would have a Z06.

Cheers,

Marty
 
Old Jan 29, 2009 | 06:49 AM
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Well I know I cant afford a new Z06 or even an use gt2, but for the price of 65k along with all the mods put in I think ive got an awesome p-car and a more than worthy alternative. A used 996tt is a great working mans car, I see more and more for sale for good prices and low mileage.
 
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Originally Posted by luva966tt
A used 996tt is a great working mans car.
Sorry, that just sounds funny
 
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Originally Posted by WOODTSTER
Jamie,

but a stock C6 Z06
is not going to "annilihate" a stock GT2.


Cheers,

Marty

+1

And definitely not the modded ones.
 
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Originally Posted by jamie furman
Ahmad that would be awesome! I am looking forward to getting to the track, but I wouldn't even mention it to Jason as he might say no, just hold it down until you hit 130 and see what happens.
Cool. Actually I just talked to Jason and he said we can do a 60-130 event, it would just cost the same as a traditional drag racing event. BUT, instead of two lanes we can just get one. It still comes out to $100/car but the minimum # of cars would be greatly reduced. I think we would only need ten cars but I will double check. You are correct though we could just hold the pedal down til we get to 130 and still get a 1/4 mile slip in the process so I dont know if its worth a seperate event.
 
Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WOODTSTER
Jamie,

With all due respect, you have incredible choice in cars and are one
of the best amatuer drag racers in the country...but a stock C6 Z06
is not going to "annilihate" a stock GT2.
One my best friends (Atomic Z) has a highly modified C6 Z06 and a stock
one ("427 Edition"). They are spectacular cars in both performance and comfort and one of the true values in the Auto world.
What now makes things more interesting is that the 996 TT's can now be
had for $40K; throw another $20K at them (motor mods, suspension and brakes) and you really have a super car with a cool interior
If I had lots of money, I also would have a Z06.

Cheers,

Marty
Maybe you didn't understand what I said? I said I had a 996 GT2 meaning I have a 996 911 Porsche, same interior in all the cars basically is what I meant and stock no comparison to a C6Z06 and modified can barely keep up. I don't want to debate with you guys, and you can argue all you want but bring out a stock 996 or 997 Turbo or GT2 or any stock Turbo Car ever made by Porsche to MIR on the 1st of March 2009 and I will ANNILIHATE it with my Bone Stock Z06. Not bragging Just Fact!
 
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Originally Posted by jamie furman
bring out a stock 996 or 997 Turbo or GT2 or any stock Turbo Car ever made by Porsche to MIR on the 1st of March 2009 and I will ANNILIHATE it with my Bone Stock Z06. Not bragging Just Fact!
I got money on Jamie!
 
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Oh boy, here we go again.
 
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Jaime, this includes the 997 GT2?
 
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Originally Posted by jamie furman
I think you must be predudice as I have a 2002 GT2 that I bought brand new and I really like a lot but I don't find it to be superior to the Z06 by some great margin, a nicer interior slightly but performance wise stock to stock the Z06 would annilihate the Porsche and most modified ones as well. They do look similar to regular C6's to the same extent that the TT's look like the regular C2's to the average Joe Blow.
Didn't you run similiar 1/4 mile times in your stock GT2 and Z06. Within 2-3/10 of a second. What was the trap speed difference.

You are correct that most people can not tell the difference between a base vette and a Z06. Most people can not tell the difference between a GT2 and a regular C2 either.

As far as the interior goes - I believe the GT2 is about $100k more than the Z06 - so lets not even throw that into the equation.

modded vs modded - lets not even get into that - way too many variables for that to be a civilized conversation. As there are dozens of threads already wasting time on that topic.

Originally Posted by WOODTSTER
Jamie,

With all due respect, you have incredible choice in cars and are one
of the best amatuer drag racers in the country...but a stock C6 Z06
is not going to "annilihate" a stock GT2.
One my best friends (Atomic Z) has a highly modified C6 Z06 and a stock
one ("427 Edition"). They are spectacular cars in both performance and comfort and one of the true values in the Auto world.
What now makes things more interesting is that the 996 TT's can now be
had for $40K; throw another $20K at them (motor mods, suspension and brakes) and you really have a super car with a cool interior
If I had lots of money, I also would have a Z06.

Cheers,

Marty
Stock vs stock is a drivers race. End of story. If GM would put a reasonable 5th & 6th gear in the car it would be a pretty even race all the way to 200 mph.

The interior on the '08 427 Edition is worlds better than the plastic on the '07. Bang for the buck the Z06 is still the king. I plan on owning a GT2 or GT3 in the future though, just awesome cars.

Originally Posted by heavychevy
Oh boy, here we go again.
Come on heavy - this is what you live for. There are so many threads out there that turn in to nothing but BS going back and forth.
 
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Originally Posted by AtomicZ
Come on heavy - this is what you live for. There are so many threads out there that turn in to nothing but BS going back and forth.
Let's see, Jamie has the only "stock" Z06 to trap 130 mph on stock tires and he acts like all of them do it every day and anyone who hasn't trapped said speeds cant drive. And everything goes back to the drag strip as if that's the only things the cars can do or is the only measure of acceleration or performance.

I'm all for debates, I love them, but just a little less bravado would be cool.
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Let's see, Jamie has the only "stock" Z06 to trap 130 mph on stock tires and he acts like all of them do it every day and anyone who hasn't trapped said speeds cant drive. And everything goes back to the drag strip as if that's the only things the cars can do or is the only measure of acceleration or performance.

I'm all for debates, I love them, but just a little less bravado would be cool.
No thats your perception of me! The reason I use a dragstrip is because its legal and I like my drivers license, and I race road courses too and would have confidence in the Z06 there as well. The conversation is accelleration and the Z06 has the best of the 2 cars period! You probably consider it bravado because I don't agree with your opinion of the 2 cars, probably because I own both and you don't so I don't see how you can intelligently debate my argument? Thats why in my post I said I don't want an argument, if someone really believes a Stock Turbo Porsche of any year is a match for a stock C6Z06 bring it out to MIR on March 1st and show me! Thats 1 month notice and there must be some guys with stock turbo's that think they can run with Z06's, and hell they can probably sneak a tuned car in because you can't tell a tune by looking at them? But if they say its stock I will trust them!
And so theres no misunderstanding in my statement I want to say I fully understand there are plenty of modified TT's that can annilihate C6Z06's, just as there are Modified Ford Pinto's that could do so as well.

ATOMIC Z, no offense but stock vs stock is not a drivers race, the Z06 wins easy! And yes my GT2 does run similar times but it has a tune and exhaust and waste gate acuators that allow it to pull an extra .2 bar of boost, not to mention with drag radials my best 60' in the Z is 1.70 and in the GT2 my best is 1.54 so it gets a big advantage on the holeshot. Both cars best et is 10.83 at 130 with drag radials and the best with stock tires for the Z is 10.98 at 129 and for the GT2 its 11.13 at 127 so they are very close but the Z is bonestock!
 

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