C6Z06 Intake and Tune compared to 996tt
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No thats your perception of me! The reason I use a dragstrip is because its legal and I like my drivers license, and I race road courses too and would have confidence in the Z06 there as well. The conversation is accelleration and the Z06 has the best of the 2 cars period! You probably consider it bravado because I don't agree with your opinion of the 2 cars, probably because I own both and you don't so I don't see how you can intelligently debate my argument? Thats why in my post I said I don't want an argument, if someone really believes a Stock Turbo Porsche of any year is a match for a stock C6Z06 bring it out to MIR on March 1st and show me! Thats 1 month notice and there must be some guys with stock turbo's that think they can run with Z06's, and hell they can probably sneak a tuned car in because you can't tell a tune by looking at them? But if they say its stock I will trust them!
And so theres no misunderstanding in my statement I want to say I fully understand there are plenty of modified TT's that can annilihate C6Z06's, just as there are Modified Ford Pinto's that could do so as well.
ATOMIC Z, no offense but stock vs stock is not a drivers race, the Z06 wins easy! And yes my GT2 does run similar times but it has a tune and exhaust and waste gate acuators that allow it to pull an extra .2 bar of boost, not to mention with drag radials my best 60' in the Z is 1.70 and in the GT2 my best is 1.54 so it gets a big advantage on the holeshot. Both cars best et is 10.83 at 130 with drag radials and the best with stock tires for the Z is 10.98 at 129 and for the GT2 its 11.13 at 127 so they are very close but the Z is bonestock!
And so theres no misunderstanding in my statement I want to say I fully understand there are plenty of modified TT's that can annilihate C6Z06's, just as there are Modified Ford Pinto's that could do so as well.
ATOMIC Z, no offense but stock vs stock is not a drivers race, the Z06 wins easy! And yes my GT2 does run similar times but it has a tune and exhaust and waste gate acuators that allow it to pull an extra .2 bar of boost, not to mention with drag radials my best 60' in the Z is 1.70 and in the GT2 my best is 1.54 so it gets a big advantage on the holeshot. Both cars best et is 10.83 at 130 with drag radials and the best with stock tires for the Z is 10.98 at 129 and for the GT2 its 11.13 at 127 so they are very close but the Z is bonestock!
Do you know your 60-130 in each car as they are now?
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Cool. I actually believe the stock C6 ZO6 is faster, althought your car is freakishly fast. When my car was K16 flashed, I'm pretty sure I couldn't beat a C6 ZO6, although I would of course, try. Simple power to weight. Vette has more power and is lighter. Even now, with my car at the 18G, level it would still be a good race.
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At sea level a ZO6 is faster in acceleration. At 6k ft, no.
However as Jamie said you can make a pinto fast, and of the two cars the vette's quality is closest to the pinto. The rear suspension came from an 1860's Stage Coach ( leaf spring
belongs on a truck not a sports car). Plain and simple, I could have easily purchased a ZO6 when I got my 996. Jamie you are right, there is more to it than just acceleration, hence why I got the TT. Way better car overall. Exudes quality, and everybody and their brother isn't driving one. I see 10-20 newer vettes every day driving to and from work. I might see one TT in a couple of weeks if I am lucky.
I love the ZO6 and have driven one plenty. arguably the second best vette ever behind the new monster. Still no comparison to a 996TT or 997TT for that matter.
However as Jamie said you can make a pinto fast, and of the two cars the vette's quality is closest to the pinto. The rear suspension came from an 1860's Stage Coach ( leaf spring
belongs on a truck not a sports car). Plain and simple, I could have easily purchased a ZO6 when I got my 996. Jamie you are right, there is more to it than just acceleration, hence why I got the TT. Way better car overall. Exudes quality, and everybody and their brother isn't driving one. I see 10-20 newer vettes every day driving to and from work. I might see one TT in a couple of weeks if I am lucky. I love the ZO6 and have driven one plenty. arguably the second best vette ever behind the new monster. Still no comparison to a 996TT or 997TT for that matter.
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Good call, bro. I think the ZR1 is an awesome car, but the honest truth is I would rather have a properly modifed Z06. It weighs less, looks better (IMO) and can be purchased and modifed for considerably less than the price of a ZR1 considering the current markup.
That said, my personal opinion from owning both cars (996TT and Z06) and also driving 996 GT2s, a 997TT and 997 GT2, is that Porsches are far better cars all-around.
But when talking about bang for the buck, the Z06 is very, very hard to beat.
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Why would you compare a modern ZO6 to an old 996tt. if you take stock cars from the same years, the 996 turbo from 2001 to 2003 spanks the ZO6 of the same year in every magazine road test. The ZO6 had a hard time making it into the high 12's, it was a solid low 13 in the 1/4. All of the mags at the time had the 996 Turbo running the 1/4 in about 12.2 to 12.6 at 116 mph. So the 996 was .5 seconds faster. It isn't until 2005 that the ZO6 gets faster than the 996 turbo.
I have been watching 996TT's and have been thinking about getting an 01. I have seen 01's going for about $45k average these days. I can K24/18 kit in it for 10k plus suspension and clutch for another 5k and I am at 60k. It will walk a new ZO6 and would give the ZR1 a run for it's money at nearly half the price.
Besides I thought supras handled kinda bad in stock form, hell, a ZO6 only corners well on perfectly smooth roads. Get it on any kind of bad road and it hops around and gets scary. I would not sell my supra for a ZO6, but I have considered selling it to get a 996 turbo.
I have been watching 996TT's and have been thinking about getting an 01. I have seen 01's going for about $45k average these days. I can K24/18 kit in it for 10k plus suspension and clutch for another 5k and I am at 60k. It will walk a new ZO6 and would give the ZR1 a run for it's money at nearly half the price.
Besides I thought supras handled kinda bad in stock form, hell, a ZO6 only corners well on perfectly smooth roads. Get it on any kind of bad road and it hops around and gets scary. I would not sell my supra for a ZO6, but I have considered selling it to get a 996 turbo.
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Do I think the ZR1 is worth $100k? Yep. But certainly not $120-$150 like some dealers are asking (and some people are paying).
My C6 Z06 with a forged motor, 1,000 HP rated clutch, upgraded axles and ZR1 blower will be making app. 300 more rwhp and torque over a ZR1, while still weighing 200 lbs less (even with my blingy 20" 360 forged wheels)...for less than the dealer's cost of a brand new ZR1.
I would pay a premium for a GT2, but not a ZR1. Only my opinion of course.
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Why would you compare a modern ZO6 to an old 996tt. if you take stock cars from the same years, the 996 turbo from 2001 to 2003 spanks the ZO6 of the same year in every magazine road test. The ZO6 had a hard time making it into the high 12's, it was a solid low 13 in the 1/4. All of the mags at the time had the 996 Turbo running the 1/4 in about 12.2 to 12.6 at 116 mph. So the 996 was .5 seconds faster. It isn't until 2005 that the ZO6 gets faster than the 996 turbo.
I have been watching 996TT's and have been thinking about getting an 01. I have seen 01's going for about $45k average these days. I can K24/18 kit in it for 10k plus suspension and clutch for another 5k and I am at 60k. It will walk a new ZO6 and would give the ZR1 a run for it's money at nearly half the price.
Besides I thought supras handled kinda bad in stock form, hell, a ZO6 only corners well on perfectly smooth roads. Get it on any kind of bad road and it hops around and gets scary. I would not sell my supra for a ZO6, but I have considered selling it to get a 996 turbo.
I have been watching 996TT's and have been thinking about getting an 01. I have seen 01's going for about $45k average these days. I can K24/18 kit in it for 10k plus suspension and clutch for another 5k and I am at 60k. It will walk a new ZO6 and would give the ZR1 a run for it's money at nearly half the price.
Besides I thought supras handled kinda bad in stock form, hell, a ZO6 only corners well on perfectly smooth roads. Get it on any kind of bad road and it hops around and gets scary. I would not sell my supra for a ZO6, but I have considered selling it to get a 996 turbo.
You think a stock Supra handles badly? Try installing a set of stock Z06 runflats on a stock Supra and let me know how much worse it becomes.
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No thats your perception of me! The reason I use a dragstrip is because its legal and I like my drivers license, and I race road courses too and would have confidence in the Z06 there as well. The conversation is accelleration and the Z06 has the best of the 2 cars period!
Z06 will not annihilate a 996 GT2 on any road course, that I can promise you.
You probably consider it bravado because I don't agree with your opinion of the 2 cars, probably because I own both and you don't so I don't see how you can intelligently debate my argument? Thats why in my post I said I don't want an argument, if someone really believes a Stock Turbo Porsche of any year is a match for a stock C6Z06 bring it out to MIR on March 1st and show me! Thats 1 month notice and there must be some guys with stock turbo's that think they can run with Z06's, and hell they can probably sneak a tuned car in because you can't tell a tune by looking at them? But if they say its stock I will trust them!
And so theres no misunderstanding in my statement I want to say I fully understand there are plenty of modified TT's that can annilihate C6Z06's, just as there are Modified Ford Pinto's that could do so as well.
And so theres no misunderstanding in my statement I want to say I fully understand there are plenty of modified TT's that can annilihate C6Z06's, just as there are Modified Ford Pinto's that could do so as well.
hmmmmmmmm..................
ATOMIC Z, no offense but stock vs stock is not a drivers race, the Z06 wins easy! And yes my GT2 does run similar times but it has a tune and exhaust and waste gate acuators that allow it to pull an extra .2 bar of boost, not to mention with drag radials my best 60' in the Z is 1.70 and in the GT2 my best is 1.54 so it gets a big advantage on the holeshot. Both cars best et is 10.83 at 130 with drag radials and the best with stock tires for the Z is 10.98 at 129 and for the GT2 its 11.13 at 127 so they are very close but the Z is bonestock!
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Hey Scott i made some re-search here.
We all agree that 996tt K24/18'g is faster than 997tt w/modified VTG's,,,,right?
Keitha NEW 60-130 on low boost is 6.8sec and we all know that SPI 997tt w/modified VTG's ran 6.5 and my personal friend has Proto 997tt w/modified VTG's also ran 6.8sec ( even his 125-187.5mph ) ran in 13.5sec which extremly fast specially on modified VTG's.
Keitha beat QM600 Cammed C6Z ( 535-540rwhp ) and his car on that time has some spooling issues as we know...Here is the vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKxqevyqJE4
The point is..On that ran Keitha must ran more than 6.8sec and still beat the Cammed C6Z by good margin.
There is many K24/18'g ran 6.8sec on the forums and i can't see why no one can believe than 18g's can beat a C6Z's w.headers/intake/tune 490rwhp.
Both my friends ( the 996tt K24/18g's and 997tt modified VTg's ) will race C6Z's w.headers/intake and tune again and we will try to post some vidz
Thanks
We all agree that 996tt K24/18'g is faster than 997tt w/modified VTG's,,,,right?
Keitha NEW 60-130 on low boost is 6.8sec and we all know that SPI 997tt w/modified VTG's ran 6.5 and my personal friend has Proto 997tt w/modified VTG's also ran 6.8sec ( even his 125-187.5mph ) ran in 13.5sec which extremly fast specially on modified VTG's.
Keitha beat QM600 Cammed C6Z ( 535-540rwhp ) and his car on that time has some spooling issues as we know...Here is the vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKxqevyqJE4
The point is..On that ran Keitha must ran more than 6.8sec and still beat the Cammed C6Z by good margin.
There is many K24/18'g ran 6.8sec on the forums and i can't see why no one can believe than 18g's can beat a C6Z's w.headers/intake/tune 490rwhp.
Both my friends ( the 996tt K24/18g's and 997tt modified VTg's ) will race C6Z's w.headers/intake and tune again and we will try to post some vidz
Thanks