giac stage 2 compared to stock gt2
Originally posted by collin996tt
Alex. Are you going to summarize the list of "stuff" that you yanked out? Is the dash still in there or are the gauges in a cardboard? Did you yank the heater and aircond out too?
Alex. Are you going to summarize the list of "stuff" that you yanked out? Is the dash still in there or are the gauges in a cardboard? Did you yank the heater and aircond out too?

I'll do it at the end of the process so I can weigh each thing seperatly...
Originally posted by collin996tt
Has anyone tried to change the turbo's final ratio?
Has anyone tried to change the turbo's final ratio?
On a slightly modified turbo, first and second are already rather short.
Originally posted by collin996tt
KA is no ordinarily turbo with a chip. Don't compare KA to mortals
Besides, I didn't say anything about "taking". Fun is a subjective matter. A lighter car is always more fun to me. I have more fun in a Boxster than a TT. Fun can't be measured by numbers.
KA is no ordinarily turbo with a chip. Don't compare KA to mortals

Besides, I didn't say anything about "taking". Fun is a subjective matter. A lighter car is always more fun to me. I have more fun in a Boxster than a TT. Fun can't be measured by numbers.
This is one reason why I can't wait for Kevin to finish his project. He will have a motor without nitrous that will probably slightly edge KA out power wise. With nitrous KA should have a 200 plus hp edge. Weight wise Kevin should have approx. 300 pounds less weight and KA will have a more exotic suspension along with a wider track, wheels and tires. When these two cars get together it will really be interesting. Two wild cars, each taking a different approach. Who really cares who wins what, it will be fun.
Last edited by cjv; Sep 25, 2004 at 11:40 PM.
Chad, that's where I'm at too... Getting the car down to 3200 was the plan for me *I have an extra 80 with that tip over you. I'd like to go lower but then I'm crossing certain lines and not really a street car anymore
The GT2 is a track ready car from the factory, it does not need any mods to go hit the track any day and be a contender.
The TT needs substantial engine mods, complete suspension redux, and brake upgrades (for serious track use) to be a good contender.
If you mod them both to the extreme, the TT would be faster in a straight line, b/c of AWD launch and the ablity to control 700+ hp. A GT2 with more than 600 flywheel HP is an accident waiting to happen to everyone except the most experienced drivers ( and even then the power is pretty much useless for traction reasons).
Would a TT with an ECU beat a GT2... no. Would a TT with ECU, exhaust, headers, and turbo upgrade beat a GT2... yes and no. Straight line, the TT would win, but on a track it I think it would be close.
The TT needs substantial engine mods, complete suspension redux, and brake upgrades (for serious track use) to be a good contender.
If you mod them both to the extreme, the TT would be faster in a straight line, b/c of AWD launch and the ablity to control 700+ hp. A GT2 with more than 600 flywheel HP is an accident waiting to happen to everyone except the most experienced drivers ( and even then the power is pretty much useless for traction reasons).
Would a TT with an ECU beat a GT2... no. Would a TT with ECU, exhaust, headers, and turbo upgrade beat a GT2... yes and no. Straight line, the TT would win, but on a track it I think it would be close.
Originally posted by Matt Fresh
The GT2 is a track ready car from the factory, it does not need any mods to go hit the track any day and be a contender.
The TT needs substantial engine mods, complete suspension redux, and brake upgrades (for serious track use) to be a good contender.
If you mod them both to the extreme, the TT would be faster in a straight line, b/c of AWD launch and the ablity to control 700+ hp. A GT2 with more than 600 flywheel HP is an accident waiting to happen to everyone except the most experienced drivers ( and even then the power is pretty much useless for traction reasons).
Would a TT with an ECU beat a GT2... no. Would a TT with ECU, exhaust, headers, and turbo upgrade beat a GT2... yes and no. Straight line, the TT would win, but on a track it I think it would be close.
The GT2 is a track ready car from the factory, it does not need any mods to go hit the track any day and be a contender.
The TT needs substantial engine mods, complete suspension redux, and brake upgrades (for serious track use) to be a good contender.
If you mod them both to the extreme, the TT would be faster in a straight line, b/c of AWD launch and the ablity to control 700+ hp. A GT2 with more than 600 flywheel HP is an accident waiting to happen to everyone except the most experienced drivers ( and even then the power is pretty much useless for traction reasons).
Would a TT with an ECU beat a GT2... no. Would a TT with ECU, exhaust, headers, and turbo upgrade beat a GT2... yes and no. Straight line, the TT would win, but on a track it I think it would be close.
Tell that to any GT2 that has met Killer Angel. I am not just talking straight line acceleration either.
Originally posted by cjv
The turbo's top speed at redline in first gear is 39 mph.
I believe the turbo has a 3:86-1 and the GT2 has a 3:50-1. To do 48 mph in first gear in a turbo @ 6700 rpm's would require a 3:16-1 first gear. About the same as a CGT which I believe is 3:18-1.
The turbo's top speed at redline in first gear is 39 mph.
I believe the turbo has a 3:86-1 and the GT2 has a 3:50-1. To do 48 mph in first gear in a turbo @ 6700 rpm's would require a 3:16-1 first gear. About the same as a CGT which I believe is 3:18-1.
Originally posted by cjv
Tell that to any GT2 that has met Killer Angel. I am not just talking straight line acceleration either.
Tell that to any GT2 that has met Killer Angel. I am not just talking straight line acceleration either.
Have you met any GT2 owner that has put $300,000 in to his car? THAT IS THE REAL QUESTION.
How will you feel if or when KA gets beaten by such a car?






