996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

Can i reinstall oem exhaust w/k24s?

Old May 27, 2009 | 06:33 PM
  #1  
Billystang's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 564
From: Boston,MA
Rep Power: 0
Billystang is infamous around these parts
Can i reinstall oem exhaust w/k24s?

I upgraded to k24s and sport exhaust who is little loud and i want to go back to OEM Exhaust.
Do i Have to remap My Ecu or do something else?
Thanks in Advance
 
Old May 27, 2009 | 06:49 PM
  #2  
ttboost's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 6,453
From: CT
Rep Power: 439
ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !
Did you retune when you upgraded? If so, then yes...if not, probably not...
 
Old May 27, 2009 | 08:24 PM
  #3  
wross996TT's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,660
Rep Power: 254
wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !
TMK no retune would be necessary...regardless
 
Old May 28, 2009 | 12:50 PM
  #4  
Billystang's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 564
From: Boston,MA
Rep Power: 0
Billystang is infamous around these parts
thank you guys!
 
Old May 28, 2009 | 02:54 PM
  #5  
john rice's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 470
From: NCal
Rep Power: 47
john rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to behold
You DO probably want to get a GT2/X50 Factory exhaust. Better breathing than stock and nice match for K24s. Just a mention as you can usually pick them up cheap.
JR
 
Old May 28, 2009 | 04:08 PM
  #6  
ard's Avatar
ard
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,981
From: N. California
Rep Power: 298
ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by john rice
You DO probably want to get a GT2/X50 Factory exhaust. Better breathing than stock and nice match for K24s. Just a mention as you can usually pick them up cheap.
JR
1. Not true- or partially true, X50 is same as stock TT. GT2 is MARGINALLY louder. No data exists on backpressure (which defines flow rate) on the GT2 exhaust. We are guessing if it adds anything.

2. You want an Europipe Stage 2 QUIET. Stock like sound, but some of the largest gains in HP (0.15bar is the backpressure versus 0.3 I think for stock)
 
Old May 28, 2009 | 04:20 PM
  #7  
john rice's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 470
From: NCal
Rep Power: 47
john rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to beholdjohn rice is a splendid one to behold
Well, if you disagree with me.. you disagree with the Factorhttp://images.ibsrv.net/y

My info is from: The Porsche 995tt/GT2 Factory Service Manual and my own observations. I have the manual set sitting nearby. It states that the GT2 and the X50 use the same exhaust. They are both setup to take advantage of the K24s and slightly advanced boost, etc [and I have seen nothing to indicate that the GT2/X50 aren't the same specification].

I have examples of both the GT2 and the X50 exhausts sitting at my house and they are identical.

I am sure there are better and sweeter exhausts but the poster was asking about returning to STOCK exhaust. These supposedly provide about 6 hp over the stock 996tt exhaust and are slightly louder.

I have seen more than one thing published from the Factory that was not technically correct. BUT seeing both exhausts and looking at the part numbers seals the deal for me.

That's all folks

JR
 
Old May 28, 2009 | 05:07 PM
  #8  
wross996TT's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,660
Rep Power: 254
wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !wross996TT Is a GOD !
TMK, A is right...X50 and stock TT are the same...GT2 with just a bit less "stuffing"...Probably can not tell by looking at the exhaust as it is the insides that differ slightly. I don't know what a 995TT service manual is, but I have the 996TT and the GT2 service manuals (the add on pages for the GT2 that is). I see no reference to the exhaust in those manuals. I do have the parts list and the GT2 is a different PN than the stock/X50 exhaust.
 
Old May 28, 2009 | 05:17 PM
  #9  
ard's Avatar
ard
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,981
From: N. California
Rep Power: 298
ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !
Check the part number in the current Porsche PET:

Here is the part for a GT2 exhaust (02 and later):
996.111.987.72

Part number for all other turbos, as well as X50:
996.111.027.75


Anyway, then I guess I have one of those "High Flowing GT2/X50 exhausts" for sale (left over from when I replaced it with an EP2L). Here I thought it was just a boat anchor!



A

PS They'll look the same, but embossed part number should be different on the GT2 vs X50. Post up your part numbers- always good to 'correct the record' so to speak.
 
Old May 28, 2009 | 05:20 PM
  #10  
ard's Avatar
ard
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,981
From: N. California
Rep Power: 298
ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by john rice
These supposedly provide about 6 hp over the stock 996tt exhaust
Source for this?

Any numbers on backpressure om the GT2 exhaust?

(Man that wross is fast....)

A

PS I've heard- this is either from Kevin at UMW or Stef at Europipe as I recall- that the GT2 muffler deletes one single internal baffle to change the sound and flow...
 
Old May 29, 2009 | 07:17 AM
  #11  
seth_horwitz's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 739
From: NYC
Rep Power: 128
seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by ard
Check the part number in the current Porsche PET:

Here is the part for a GT2 exhaust (02 and later):
996.111.987.72

Part number for all other turbos, as well as X50:
996.111.027.75
How much louder is the GT2 exhaust over stock X50? My car is louder than I'd like, and I think I may have the GT2 exhaust. Does it drone a bit between 2.5-3K RPM? I need to crawl back under the car to get the part number again as the picture I took is a bit grainy. (Anyone have better eyes than me?)

 

Last edited by seth_horwitz; May 29, 2009 at 09:08 AM.
Old May 29, 2009 | 10:46 AM
  #12  
ard's Avatar
ard
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,981
From: N. California
Rep Power: 298
ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !ard Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by seth_horwitz
How much louder is the GT2 exhaust over stock X50? My car is louder than I'd like, and I think I may have the GT2 exhaust. Does it drone a bit between 2.5-3K RPM? I need to crawl back under the car to get the part number again as the picture I took is a bit grainy. (Anyone have better eyes than me?)
1. Use a rag, maybe some water, and try to get the number directly with your own eyes- the ability to integrate the visual information you get in real time to identify the numbers will (almost) always be better than reading it from a picture. A light wipe with water or solvent can darken the surround and make the numbers 'pop'.

2. I don't think I've EVER read that someone finds the stock exhaust- GT2, X50, whatever- too loud. Has yours been modified by the 'drill out the interior' method?? Has anyone else (996TT owner) listened to it?

A
 
Old May 29, 2009 | 11:13 AM
  #13  
seth_horwitz's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 739
From: NYC
Rep Power: 128
seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !seth_horwitz Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by ard
2. I don't think I've EVER read that someone finds the stock exhaust- GT2, X50, whatever- too loud. Has yours been modified by the 'drill out the interior' method?? Has anyone else (996TT owner) listened to it?

A
That's been my understanding, too, which is why I'm kind of puzzled. The car has a drone, which made me believe the exhaust was aftermarket, but then I looked at the stampings on the bottom and it looks OEM to me. I need to get out to a local event so I can hear another X50's exhaust. Most people have described the factory exhaust as quiet. Mine is certainly not quiet, aftermarket or not.
 
Old May 29, 2009 | 11:14 AM
  #14  
Billystang's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 564
From: Boston,MA
Rep Power: 0
Billystang is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by john rice
You DO probably want to get a GT2/X50 Factory exhaust. Better breathing than stock and nice match for K24s. Just a mention as you can usually pick them up cheap.
JR
do you know anyone selling one?
 
Old May 29, 2009 | 11:16 AM
  #15  
ExclusiveTT's Avatar
Registered User
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,384
From: Florida
Rep Power: 110
ExclusiveTT has a reputation beyond reputeExclusiveTT has a reputation beyond reputeExclusiveTT has a reputation beyond reputeExclusiveTT has a reputation beyond reputeExclusiveTT has a reputation beyond reputeExclusiveTT has a reputation beyond reputeExclusiveTT has a reputation beyond reputeExclusiveTT has a reputation beyond reputeExclusiveTT has a reputation beyond reputeExclusiveTT has a reputation beyond reputeExclusiveTT has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by john rice
You DO probably want to get a GT2/X50 Factory exhaust. Better breathing than stock and nice match for K24s. Just a mention as you can usually pick them up cheap.
JR

I had no idea that the k16 and k24 cars had different exhausts. Do you know that for a fact?

EDIT: whoops... whould ahve read the entire thread before I posted Btw, I have a turbo and gt2 here with stock exhaust and can start both of them to see which is louder if that helps...Mileage on the two cars is different though.
 

Last edited by ExclusiveTT; May 29, 2009 at 11:19 AM.

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:41 PM.