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Ever seen a billet shifter rod snap like this?

Old Nov 21, 2009 | 01:46 AM
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Ever see a billet shifter rod snap like this?

So apparently I have so much brute strength in my shifts that I broke the B&M shifter rod like this. Look at that clean break!



Everyone I talked to while scrambling to find a new SSK said they have never seen this before, and these people are not new to this game.

Thanks to Dan @ Vivid, who scrambled to set up my overnight order for his SSK right at the deadline today since I had not located a local part.

Of course, 5 minutes after I placed that order with Dan, I get a callback from Rob @ S-Car-Go who has an EVOMS SSK in stock. So I quickly call back Dan and cancel the order (sorry Dan) and borrow a friend's car to drive up to San Rafael to see Rob. Then over to Berkeley (where my car had been stranded since yesterday) to meet my mechanic and get this new part in. All good now with a solid new EVOMS part.
 

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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 02:30 AM
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Looks like a classic fatigue failure. Are there parallel striations across the fracture surface, curved toward one side ending at the other side with a small lip? Probably wouldn't have happened if the transition between the straighter and tapered parts weren't so sharp. There was probably also a machining defect on the side closest to the curved striations where the failure started.

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Actually yes! My B&M short shifter on my 996 Turbo broke in the exact same place. My Porsche shop guys got a big kick out of it and told me I was just too rough on the shifter.
 
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Looks like a classic fatigue failure. Are there parallel striations across the fracture surface, curved toward one side ending at the other side with a small lip? Probably wouldn't have happened if the transition between the straighter and tapered parts weren't so sharp. There was probably also a machining defect on the side closest to the curved striations where the failure started.

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This isn't the only platform that has had B&M shifters fail either...
 
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good info here, was looking into getting one of those, thanks
 
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Maybe they design it to fail in that spot, if it is to fail at all. Perhaps the material was of poor quality. The design sure would have been less susceptible to failure with a small radius vs. a sharp edge at the failure point. Ease off the steroids, I'd say...
 
Old Nov 21, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Interesting stuff... anyone ever hear of or see a non-B&M stick break?
 
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I did that on the top of the lever on my old E34 525i. The whole lever just came off in my hand when I went 2-3.
This was back in the broke college days, so we pulled over, had my friend pick me up, drove to his dad's house, borrowed his cordless drill. Drilled straight down half an inch into the fulcrum point and used the drill as my shifter until my short shifter came in the mail.
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Originally Posted by Seal Grey Matte
so we pulled over, had my friend pick me up, drove to his dad's house, borrowed his cordless drill. Drilled straight down half an inch into the fulcrum point and used the drill as my shifter until my short shifter came in the mail.
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Now THAT is "ghetto"...
 

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