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Looking for comments/experience with this Proto/Sachs clutch kit good to 650-700whp

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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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Looking for comments/experience with this Proto/Sachs clutch kit good to 650-700whp

the Sachs part numbers are:

disc 99611601532
pressure plate 883082752

I will be doing a clutch upgrade soon since mine is starting to slip now. I was thinking of the Clutchmasters Stage 3 or a beefier Sachs setup but really want to make sure this setup is drivable as this is my DD for now and the foreseeable future. I will be installing the GT2 slave conversion at the same time as well. And I will retain my LWFW.

So, anyone with direct experience with this disc and "752" pressure plate, as Todd K calls it?

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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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I have experience with that PP and it will require the clutchmasters fulcrum mod to hold 650-700 HP for any length of time. If modified by CM, it will be fine.

I do not have any experience with that disc. Is it sprung or unsprung?
 
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I have experience with that PP and it will require the clutchmasters fulcrum mod to hold 650-700 HP for any length of time. If modified by CM, it will be fine.

I do not have any experience with that disc. Is it sprung or unsprung?
Thanks John.

I am unsure on the disc - I just emailed to find out.
 
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+1 ATS tripple carbon here too
 
Old Jan 10, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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I am trying to stay away from the triple disc for now as my power goals are to stay around 700-750 crank hp for awhile.
 
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I still have mine forsale
 
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Add longevity to your criteria - my stage 3 just started slipping at 14k miles.

It held fine all this time, but when it slips, the car shakes like a Califonia earthquake...
 
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I still have mine forsale
Thanks, but I think I want to get an unused setup.

Originally Posted by RiA
Add longevity to your criteria - my stage 3 just started slipping at 14k miles.

It held fine all this time, but when it slips, the car shakes like a Califonia earthquake...
Yes longevity is also on the wishlist! Bummer about yours slipping already. That doesn't seem right with a stage 3 at only 660hp? What are you going with now? Stage 4?
 
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I have 30,000 hard miles on mine now and it still did not slip in the cool fall morning air at WOT, 1.32 bar - with a lot of torque on it. And it drives like stock, but with a lower engagement point - almost at the floor. My last clutch slipped after 6 months - it was installed in the winter and slipping in the cool fall morning air 6 months later. I think the modified Sachs Motorsports parts with an OEM flywheel is the ticket for a 700 level car, if you want OEM like drivability and long term reliability.
 
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Originally Posted by John@SpeedTech
I have 30,000 hard miles on mine now and it still did not slip in the cool fall morning air at WOT, 1.32 bar - a lot of torque on it. And it drives like stock, but with a lower engagement point - almost at the floor. My last clutch slipped after 6 months - installed in the winter, slipping in the cool fall morning air. I think modified Sachs Motorsports parts with an OEM flywheel is the ticket for a 700 level car if you want OEM like drivability.
The LWFW has nothing to do with clutch engagement position does it?
 
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I'm not sure. I think it has to do with proper indexing of the pressure plate and disc.
 
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Originally Posted by flash68
Yes longevity is also on the wishlist! Bummer about yours slipping already. That doesn't seem right with a stage 3 at only 660hp? What are you going with now? Stage 4?
I don't know - checking out my options (budget is a factor).
 
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Originally Posted by John@SpeedTech

I do not have any experience with that disc. Is it sprung or unsprung?
The disc is sprung, and here is Todd K's comment on it:

We always run a sprung hub with marcel springs on the lwfw setups and a non sprung hub/marcel faced disk on the dual mass setups

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I don't know - checking out my options (budget is a factor).
I am right there with ya Rich.
 
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